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#274 - 09 Feb 2008 01:29 AM My Experience with certain anti-psychotic Drugs
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My Experience with certain anti-psychotic Drugs

A few years back I was diagnosed with certain mental sickness and put on certain anti-psychotic medications by the psychiatrist for its treatment.

Unfortunately, I ended up suffering from the muscle spasms side effects of these particular anti-psychotic medication that caused me to have the undesirable symptom of non-stop eyelid-twitching which lasted for more than one year.

Luckily, I finally get my non-stop eyelid-twitching totally cured through acupuncture treatment after seeking various and numerous repeated treatments from different medical experts to deal with this non-stop eyelid-twtiching sickness.

I have posted articles about my healing experience from this non-stop eyelid-twitching sickness in http://www.healthlinks.net/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=273&Main=172#Post273 of this website under the sub-category "Alternative Medicine" and I hope that the information given will serve as useful references to the intended readers.

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#283 - 29 Feb 2008 11:50 AM Re: My Experience with certain anti-psychotic Drugs [Re: ntuc]
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a lot of peopel i know who were on anti-psychotic drugs gianed a ton of weight

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#352 - 25 Jan 2009 02:04 AM Antipsychotcis / Neuroleptics For Mental Disorders [Re: lizzypoo]
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Antipsychotcis / Neuroleptics For Mental Disorders - Medical Analysis

Well, In terms of antipsychotic and other neuroleptic drugs, clinical evidences actually indicate that those troubled with mental disorders, especially the serious ones, shouldn't just rely solely upon the medications as the one and only means of solution to their mental problems.

To put it bluntly, such medications, they are no different from sleeping pills whereby their calming effects just 'come and go' after the lapse of their effective period whilst their potential disastrous side effects can be permanent upon manifestations. In medical sense, such mental disorders, especially the serious ones is mainly caused by the malfunctionings of the mood regulator neurotransmitter, especially Serotonin in the brain. Next, though the related medications can to a certain extent bring such a severe mental disorder under control by 'artificially' regulating, blocking and controlling the re-uptake of it in the brain of the persons suffering from it, medications alone however, by no means would be able to deal conclusively with the problems due to the fact that the root causes of such a disorder is actually resulting largely from the environmental, circumstantial and other interpersonal factors (or the changes of them) that are deemed to be emotionally and adversely unacceptable to the ones suffering from it to a very great extent. Such negative changes in turn actually account for the negative behavioural changes in them as described

In short, it remains the truth that most of the antipsychotics / neuroleptics meant for especially the treatment of chronic mental illnesses would tend to work in such a way that they would need to change / alter the chemical balances in the brain of those taking such medications in the process of bringing such disorders under control. In the process of doing so, such a mechanism would unavoidably and eventually antagonize the neurotransmitters of the nervous system, especially the serotonin and dopamine (which is necessary for various neuromuscular functions), and hence disturb and interfere with the normal functionings of the nerves of the human body.

Next, though it may take years for such undesirable side effects / scenario to manifest onto the ones taking such medications, I am just in the opinion that in the case of the medications having potentially such unwanted side effects, it would naturally be the duty of the medical personnel / specialists-in-charge to take all the precautionary measures to safeguard the well-being of the patients for the sake of their healthcare and welfare.

The real-life examples that I have come across so far is such that for the ones relying merely upon medications and nothing else to deal with their mental disorders, they would tend to develop both emotional and psychological dependences upon such medictions over the long-term whilst getting their mental conditions deteriorated from time to time, eg, from neurosis to psychosis and then just acquire all those almost irreversibly disastrous undesirable side effects like Extrapyramidal Symptoms, Tardive Dyskinesia, Dystonia, Akathisia, Neuroleptic Malignant Syndrome, Parkinsonism disorders etc from such medications in the end.


In such a connection, psychotherapy, emotional and other communication supports would be needed to complement the use of the related medications to achieve greater curative effects for such patients troubled by chronic mental disorder.

As such, medications is one thing, but the mental / cognitive abilities of the patients themselves to eventually change their views and perceptions about their environments / surroundings, circumstances and people they are facing in a more positve way, particularly developed through the help of such counselling supports from the others in order for them to really get better and gradually develop positive behavioural / personal changes, is simply another thing that cannot achieved solely with the help of medications alone.

In a nutshell, medications alone by no means can be a substitute for the positive interpersonal experiences that such patients would eventually need for genuine improvement and recovery of their sanity and the use of them should at the same time be complemented by other psychotherapy efforts to achieve the purpose of holistic healing.

Lastly, I hope that the information given above will turn out to be useful to its intended readers. Thank you.

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#353 - 25 Jan 2009 02:05 AM Statistics of Recovery Cases For Mental Illnesses [Re: ntuc]
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Statistics of Recovery Cases For Mental Illnesses

In fact, statistical evidences actually show that among the ones getting mental illnesses, especially the serious one like Schizophrenia, generally one-third of the population of such people would eventually manage to achieve full recovery, another one-third would gain significant improvements while getting occasional relapses of such disorders, whilst the remaining rest would just get their disorders worsened day after day until no recovery is conceivably possible.

Lastly, what I am trying to say is that as long as there're hopes in getting improvements for one's mental disorders, one should put in the necessary efforts and work hard towards that goal of gaining more and more sanities and finally full recoveries if possible.

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#354 - 25 Jan 2009 02:08 AM General Cognitive Behavioural Process [Re: ntuc]
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General Cognitive Behavioural Process

Well, a psychologist has actually explained to me before that any human actions / behaviours are generally dictated by a cognitive mental process summarized such as follows, and it would apply as well to the ones suffering from any mental disorders, but nevertheless are still mentally and cognitively well-aware of their surroundings and other objects / factors around them. Next, I find that such reasonings really make great senses, and hence, I just feel like to share it with the intended readers :-

Perceptions (anything we see, we hear, we know, we taste, we touch etc from our surroundings / other people) => Thoughts (the types of views and opinions that we form in our minds after receiving those perceptions) => Feelings (the way we feel about our surroundings and other people based on the views and opinons formed) => Actions (how we choose to react in response to those surroundings / other people based on the thoughts and feelings that arise our mind).

In such a regard, the underlying problem faced by the ones with schizophrenia, bipolar disorders and other mental disorders are such that they would tend to treat their perceptions (as mentioned above) in a very much negatively different way, and that in turn results in them forming all those negative thoughts and feelings and then all those negative actions of which others get to label them as negative behavioural / personality changes.

For example, a person suffering from schizophrenia may, after 'observing' his surroundings (Perceptions), just in turn tend to have such false imagery thoughts that someone out there is threatening his life (Thoughts), and then just feeling scared and fearful, and in extreme cases, maybe they may get to hear 'voices' and have unreal imaginations of which they choose to firmly believe in (Feelings), and finally just try his very best based on his own 'misguided judgements', to subconsciously become violently defensive and hostile against the others in order to save himself, from being killed etc (Actions).

With all due respect, the antipsychotics and other neuroleptics just serve to temporarily block such negative nerve impulses about their such negative perceptions from getting sent to the brain of the ones having such disorders so as to artificially block all those negative thoughts, feelings and then the actions. Hence, they are simply not a conclusive and permanent solution to such disorders.

Well, in such a context, the most direct way of treating schizophrenia and bipolar disorder in the most effective, and maybe largely hypothetical way would be for such persons to totally change their perceptions about their surroundings, environments, the other people in a positive way and to start having positive and realistic thoughts and at the same time, to get rid of those hallucinations, fanciful ideas, little by little gradually and slowly out of their mind and replace them with anything normal, practical, realistic and positive. Theorectically, positive perceptions => positive thoughts => positive feelings => positive actions.

In this sense, a great deal of interpersonal, interactive, communications and emotional supports from the ones genuinely willing to help them would be very much essential in getting this achieved, essentially in changing the ways they perceive, think and feel for anything they deal with so as to enable them to come to a decision on their own to have positive actions.

Nonetheless, above all these external constructive helps from the others, all the self-initiatives, self-controls and self-disciplines that are meant to be exercised, essentially on the parts of the ones suffering from such a disorder, particularly to 'mentally-train' themselves to think realistically, positively, optimistically and to cast out / expel all those weird thoughts, hallucinations, fanciful imaginations and preposterous urges and whims little by little out of their minds and get them replaced with the positive, practical and realistic ones, so as to slowly develop positive behavioural changes in themselves, would in turn actually be the decisive factor in determining whether their conditions will pracitcally improve or not, slowly and gradually in the end.

Further References (Please Look For Posts Made By ntuc) :

http://www.mentalhealthforum.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3039

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#379 - 10 Mar 2009 07:51 AM As a summary, [Re: ntuc]
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As a summary,

I'm suggesting the following as a solution to mental disorders :

1/3 of medicational helps + 1/3 of psychotherapies, interactive, interpersonal, emotional, communication, conselling supports from the others + 1/3 of self-determinations, self-initiatives, self-controls, self-wills and self-disciplines to think positively, rationally, realistically and practically as well as to lead a normal and healthy life

These are actually the advices I have obtained from many neurologists, psychiatrists, psychotherapists and psychologists as well as the very conclusions I have experienced myself.

Lastly, I hope that the information given will be relevant and useful to the intended readers. Thank you.

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#382 - 16 Mar 2009 07:14 AM Hallucinations / Delusions - Brief Analysis [Re: ntuc]
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Hallucinations / Delusions, symptoms of Schizophrenia - Brief Analysis

In fact, for the symptoms of hallucinations / delusions etc that might come along with certain mental disorders such as schizophrenia, bipolar disorder etc, well, I was actually informed by the psychiatrists and psychologists that all these hallucinations / delusions etc, 'they' are actually 'fed' on such negative feelings as fear, anger, frustrations, suspicions and all other fanciful, illogical, irrational, erratic and unreasonable senses of those suffering from such hallucinational disorders.

This is to say, the more and more, and the frequent and frequent that such people having hallucinations / delusions are to entertain / indulge / revel / be engrossed in such negative feelings of fear, anger, frustrations, suspicions and all other fanciful, illogical, irrational, erratic and unreasonable senses, and the stronger and stronger of those senses that such people suffering from schizophrenia / bipolar disorder tend to have, then the worse and worse their delusional and hallucinational conditions would tend to become / deteriorate over time.

Similarly, the same concepts and principles would fairly apply to certain mental diorders like depressions, anxieties, phobias, panic attacks etc whereby the more and more depressed, anxious, distressed, worried, dejected, panicked, desperate, emotionally impulsive, fearful (of certain things, surroundings, situations, people etc) a particular mentally-illed person can get, the more and more serious that such mental disorders would potentially deteriorate over the long-term.

So, one would really need to learn how to control oneself so as not to let their such negative senses running out of control.

In short, in dealing with such problems, just don't 'give' all these hallucinations / delusions etc what 'they' want (in these cases, that will be those negative unrealistic / irrational / wildly fanciful senses etc as described above) so as to prevent the symptoms from deteriorating from bad to worse. Whilst the same approaches would be effective for the other mental disorders too, such as the ones mentioned above.

So, the ways of overcoming these hallucinations / delusions, other mental disorders etc, on one point, would be to use certain related medications to temporarily bring such a condition under control (temporarily in the sense that medications have their limitations especially in terms of their effective curative period, whilst at the same time, such a 'temporary healing' is actually achieved through the artificial suppressing of negative nerve impulses to block all such negative feelings, thoughts - in this case, mainly the hallucinations, and finally the actions which arise from negative perceptions).



On the other hand, one's self-initiatives and self-efforts to exercise self-controls, self-disciplines, self-rationalisings, self-reasonings etc to overcome all those delusions and hallucinations would be of utmost essential in helping oneself to cope with such mental disorders.

This is to say, in order to overcome all those delusions, hallucinations etc, one would need to exercise all those self-initiatives, self-controls etc to exercise self-reasonings and self-rationalisings, so as to enable oneself to gradually and slowly think positively, rationally, realistically, reasonably, practically and sensibly, as well as, at the same time, to replace all those delusional, hallucinational thoughts, wild imaginations etc, bit by bit, with rational and reasonable thoughts and senses, just like the what the normal healthy people do.

In the meantime, one would reasonably require certain psychotherapy, emotional, interactive, interpersonal and communication supports in getting such goals achieved. In this regard, such other activities as doing sports, playing indoor games (such as chess, card games etc), engagings in one's favourite hobbies, watching comedies, reading something interesting, positively inspiring etc, would all be useful in both distracting one's mind from having delusions, hallucinations etc, whilst at the same time, subconsciously instilling into their minds all those optimistic and positive thoughts that one would need to deal with such disorders.

In short, having hallucinations, which to a certain extent might be associated with certain mental disorders, as well as the mental disorders themselves, well, they may be painful experiences to most people, however, it would take just the right treatments and other related remedial factors to achieve holistic healings for such disorders of hallucinations / delusions, other mental disorders etc.

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#399 - 01 Apr 2009 06:45 AM Mental Disorders - Further Explanations [Re: ntuc]
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Mental Disorders - Further Explanations

Actually, in terms of mental disorders which may come along with hallucinations / delusions, all those external aides of medications, psychotherapies, interactive, interpersonal and emotional supports etc, they are all meant for the same ultimate goal of bringing such disorders under control and there is simply no doubt for that.

Next, since it's the ones having mental disorders are who are actually suffering from such illnesses, which arise from negative perceptions, negative feelings and negative thoughts formed in their own brains / minds (instead of other people's brains / minds), it would eventually necessitate they themselves to put in their very own self- efforts, having received both external medicational and interpersonal helps from the others, to exercise self-controls and self-disciplines on their own to direct their own brains for self-reasonings, self-introspections and self-rationalisings.

This is to say, for the self-cognition / thinkings psychological part of the ones having mental diorders to form those positive feelings and positive thoughts in their own minds on their very own, and then to naturally develop postitive behavioural / personality changes, such a cognitive thought / thinking process actually can hardly be 'dictated' by anyone else other than they themselves. In such connection, as to the cognitive / thinking abilities / processes of different individuals, one of the simplest examples will be the process of learning a knowledge or something else whereby a person can get the best text materials, teachers, lecturers, tutors etc to assist one in his / her learnings, however, it would still ultimately depend on the very cognitive ability / process pertaining to that particular person which is then the key decisive factor in determining whether the knowledge is successfully acquired in the end or not.

In short, those self-efforts (related to self-cognitions), in the very end, will eventually be very much essential, or rather the decisive factor in determining whether the persons having mental disorders will achieve improvements / recoveries for their mental conditions or not.

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#400 - 01 Apr 2009 06:47 AM Mental Disorders - Neurosis Vs Psychosis [Re: ntuc]
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Mental Disorders / Mental Illnesses - Its Two General Categories : Neurosis & Psychosis - Brief Explanations

Generally, mental disorders / mental illnesses can be summarized into the two broad categories of neurosis and psychosis as explained below : -

- In the case of mental disorders / mental illnesses which mildly disturb the normal functionings of one's cognitive / thinking abilities, functions and processes (of the brains), this would give rise to behavioural problems (that affects only part of the personality), which are quite uncontrollable and involuntary. Next, such scenarios are generally labelled as neurosis. Its common examples would be depression, panic, anxiety, insecurity, irrational fears, obsessive- compulsive Disorders (OCD), hypochondria / neurasthenia etc. In this regard, such antidepressants like Prozac etc are actually meant for such mental disorders / mental illnesses. As such, please refer to the website below for further details :

http://www.answers.com/topic/neurosis

http://www.drugs.com/mtm/prozac.html

- In the very much serious cases of mental disorders / mental illnesses whereby one's cognitive / thinking abilities, functions and processes (of the brains) are severely disturbed and impaired, this would then cause the much more serious personality disorders which may involve such mentally dissociative states of delusions, hallucinations and in the worst case scenario, insanities. The most common examples would be scizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder, schizophreniform disorder, bipolar disorder, paranoia etc - which are generally labelled as psychosis . In such a connection, such powerful tranquilizers as the antipsychotics / neuroleptics etc will usually be needed to deal with such much more serious mental disorders / mental illnesses. As such, please refer to the website below for further details :

http://www.answers.com/topic/psychosis

http://www.answers.com/topic/antipsychotic-1

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#414 - 20 Apr 2009 08:15 AM Compassionate & Humane Treatments Vs Brutality & C [Re: ntuc]
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Compassionate & Humane Treatments Vs Brutality & Cruelty Treatments For The Mentally-illed Ones

"I disagree. Research and you will find that most people with a mental illness was locked away"

"You may be right, nevertheless, locking such persons away, well, most of the times may just worsen their conditons for the very fact that most of such mentally-illed people might actually have experienced extreme cases of oppression, interpersonal pressures, high stress and sometimes abuses by the other persons before they actually come to develop such mental disorders."

"Next, the surroundings of a limited confined space / environment, which in many cases may just represent some form of oppressions to such people, and well, I don't think that such confined surroundings are, in any way actually conducive to the improvement of the mental conditions of such people, especially when such people are actually locked away for a long period of time, for that may actually constitute another form of extreme oppressions to such people."

"And that's why psychotherapy and other interactive / interpersonal / emotional and communications supports are important for the mental health care of such people."

Well, I have something more to add about these quotations excerpted from the prior posts.

Actually as a part-time social worker, working along with other associates and dealing mainly with the in-patients of the government-funded psychiatric / mental wards and those of the special-care nursing homes, mainly by giving them our voluntary counselling therapies, one very common scenario that me and the other associates of social workers have observed so far, and yet pervasively concealed from the others, is actually the physical abuses, maltreatments and sometimes deliberate tortures etc inflicted by the related operatives-in-charge of such psychiatric facilities onto the mentally-retarded, senile and demented psychiatric in-patients of such medical facilities, which almost invariably go entirely unreported and grossly kept off the records. And most of the times, the victims involved may include those old senile people with impaired hearings, poor visions, severe cognitive problems, parkinson's disease, alzheimers, senile dementia etc. And whenever we come across such scenarios, we would try our best to stop such physical abuses, maltreatments and deliberate tortures from happening.

For your further information, for the psychiatrists and other medical personnel-charge of these medical facilities such as what we have observed so far, they would simply tend to turn a blind eye and a deaf ear on such physical abuses, mistreatments and sometimes deliberate tortures etc which happen in their very presences.

In such a connection, all these scenarios above simply remind me of certain past events, issues and scenarios about the supposedly right and correct way in which the mentally-illed patients should be treated in order to serve their best curative and health care interests in line with the very basic humanitarian grounds.

As such, please consider the following two websites included below :


http://encarta.msn.com/media_461539711/Bedlam.html

http://encarta.msn.com/media_461539709/Pinel_Frees_the_Insane.html

Next, what I wish to say is that, along with everything that has been revealed and established in the distant past, I firmly believe that mentally-illed patients by right should be treated with greater amounts of cares, compassions, kindness, considerations and patience which are in turn geared towards the very practical purposes of the gradual step-by-step improvements of their mental conditions and recoveries of their sanities.

In this regard, brutalities, cruelties, violences, maltreatments, physical abuses, tortures and any other harsh treatments, along with all those intentional, deliberate and purposeful mockings, jeerings, ridicules, derisions, disparagings, scornfulness, sarcasms, insults, humiliations and other hurtful things which are inflicted by the others onto the mentally-illed persons, well, all these malicious acts, such as what the medical histories have undoubtedly revealed, they are in fact far more detrimental and damaging to the mentally-illed persons than the very mental disorders that these pathetic persons themselves are having at the same time.

Well, by right the society should have adopted very much more tolerant, considerate and compassionate approaches towards the ones troubled with mental disorders. This is simply for the fact that treating such mentally-illed people harshly instead of compassionately, that would only serve to make things worse for such people and at the same time, I am in the in the opinion that for those persons choosing to behave like 'bullies', who are actually so unconscionable / conscienless enough to the extent that they would actually bring themselves to purposefully do hurtful things to the mentally-illed ones, the society and community as a whole should feel ashamed of such very malicious acts of theirs.

In addition, there may be certain psychiatric in-patients who tend to behave and respond violently and aggressively to the others. And as social workers, as well as some of the psychiatrists that we work with, we simply understand that they are behaving so substantially, if not totally out of their own free will owing to the overwhelming psychotic influnces of the mental disorders that 'force' them to behave so. However, this is barely and hardly a valid ground for these mentally-illed people to be alienated and denied of any compassions and right treatments that they deserve from the psychiatrists and other related personnel. For your information, whenever we come across such patients, we would always try our best to calm them down at first, and then do our best to get their personal trusts and confidence so that we could go about influencing them in positive and sensible ways later on.

In a nutshell, mentally-illed people, despite the fact that they are mentally-abnormal compared to the perfectly healthy individuals, they are after all human beings just like anyone else. And as such, they would naturally deserve the basic human rights, due respects, cares, compassions and patiences they need from the others for the gradual and step-by-step improvements of their mental conditions , and it is beyond any doubts that such a principle is at least justified on humanitarian grounds.

In this regard, for the brutalities, cruelties, maltreatments, phsycial abuses, deliberate humiliations, derisions, ridicules, disparagings and other purposeful malicious acts administered, or rather inflicted deliberately upon the mentally-illed ones, the society and community as a whole should, by obligations of humanities, put a stop on such heinous, sinister, outrageous atrocities and monstrosities which have been victimizing the mentally-illed ones over the centuries pervasively, ubiquitously, and yet almost totally concealedly.

So, God help us !

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#415 - 26 Apr 2009 03:04 AM Brutalities, Cruelties etc For The Mentally-illed [Re: ntuc]
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Brutalities, cruelties, maltreatments, phsycial abuses, deliberate humiliations, derisions, ridicules, disparagings and other purposeful malicious acts administered, or rather inflicted deliberately upon the mentally-illed ones

Well, at the same time,

I would like to add that in terms of all those brutalities, cruelties, maltreatments, phsycial abuses, deliberate humiliations, derisions, ridicules, disparagings and other purposeful malicious acts administered, or rather inflicted deliberately upon the mentally-illed ones especially at the hands of all those ill-trained and yet official paramedics, those are exactly the main obstacles and communication barriers that we as social workers often encounter when we try to reach out to and win the trusts and confidences, especially from the institutionalized mentally-illed people. This is due to the very fact that these mentally-illed people would often tend to 'liken' us to all those persons who always do hurtful things to them and as a result, they simply would choose not to co-operate with us in the very first place.

Whilst the key difference is that, when all those 'official medical personnel' who do hurtful things to these mentally-illed in-patients are actually get paid by the hospital administrations, we as social workers providing only unpaid voluntary counselling services to these mentally-illed people, actually need to 'take care of the mess' as well that are left over by all those inconsiderate, or rather inhumane, if not, barbaric 'uniformed medical personnel' working in such medical institutions. And as a matter of fact, sometimes these 'uniformed medical personnel' would simply 'display' their dirty looks and intense urges of 'bashing us up' too especially when we come to advise these people not to use especially unnecessary physical violences and abuses against the old senile demented mentally-illed in-patients who are simply unable to 'obey their orders'.

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#418 - 03 May 2009 12:45 AM What I wish to say is that .................... [Re: ntuc]
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As a matter of fact, the information that I have included in my prior posts are actually the naked truths, or rather the harsh facts of reality which are ubiquitously pervasive, and such malpractices exist as well in the developed nations, and there's simply no way for these realities to be obliterated.

In such a connection, I have learnt about the similar, almost totally-concealed malpractices from my counterparts serving in the other European, African and U.S and other nations worldwide too.

Next, all these atrocities are actually hardly deniable by any truly conscionable persons, and I strongly believe that you will echo our sentiments.

Lastly, what I wish to say is that the mentally-illed people aren't sub-humans / playthings / livestocks / garbages / craps etc, and as such, they would, at least on humanitarian grounds, rightfully deserve the due respects of human rights and other human-related freedoms and privileges and compassions from the others too, rather than being treated with cruelties, brutalities, physical abuses, sarcasms, callouness and other deliberate, and maybe amusement-inducing harsh treatments especially at the hands of the ones who are officially paid to take good care of their welfares and personal well-beings.

And again, I would like to express my heartfelt thanks to you all for supporting such a humanitarian cause.

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#423 - 08 May 2009 04:46 AM Brutalities, Cruelties etc - What Really Happen [Re: ntuc]
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Brutalities, Cruelties, Maltreatments, Phsycial Abuses, Deliberate Humiliations, Derisions, Ridicules, Disparagings And Other Purposeful Malicious Acts Administered, Or Rather Inflicted Deliberately Upon The Mentally-illed Ones - What Is Really Happening In Reality

Included below is a written message conversation between me and the other respondent from the other forum about the brutalities, cruelties, maltreatments, phsycial abuses, deliberate humiliations, derisions, ridicules, disparagings and other purposeful malicious acts administered, or rather inflicted deliberately upon the mentally-illed ones : -

Messages From The Respondent :

"Here is the naked truth today:

Every inpatient has the right to make a complaint. Facilities are required to post the phone numbers for making such complaints. These complaints are investigated by state agencies unaffiliated with the facilities involved (which gets a bit tricky when you're dealing with state-run facilities, but that's the head-ache for the bigwigs, not the investigators). If investigation determines that the facility has broken Federal regulations in its treatment of residents, then that complaint can trigger a wide-range survey of the facility, investigating all its systems and processes. The facility receives the results of this survey along with a deadline for correcting any identified problems. If it fails to take effective action, it can be fined until it does or in extreme cases lose the right to operate and be closed.

CMS is the Centers for Medicare Services. They set the rules by which these places operate. Here are the Federal regulatory sets under which the facilities operate. Click on the file size number under the "PDF File column" to open the specific set (Don't ask me, that's how CMS set it up):"


My Replies :

I have gone through your post, so can I ask you a question if you don't really mind, actually, are you really that naive ?

And well, if you are just a mere outsider who are not directly involved hands-on in terms of dealing face-to-face with all those in-patients of those medical facilities like us, the unpaid social workers, and the official medical operatives who are paid to work in all those facilities, then reasonably there's no way that I can blame you for being naive.

But for being outspokenly naive in a purely self-opinionted and self-righteous and yet totally gullibly ill-informed way, hey, that has definitely crossed the line.

Investigations about the complaints made by in-patients ? Hey, let me just tell you what actually happen in reality.

For any physical abuses, maltreatments and brutalities, especially the totally unnecessary and widespread ones inflicted on the infirm senile demented in-patients, especially purely for amusement purposes of those formal medical operatives, such 'incidences' will almost always go off the record in the very first place (or rather, into total ignorance / non-existence) with the silent consents, approvals, and absolute co-operations from the other official co-workers, including the psychiatrists and other doctors-in-charge of such facilities who tend to cover up for one another.

Whilst in the case where such physical abuses, maltreatments and brutalities were unfortunately enough to get 'accidentally witnessed' by anyone not belonging to their 'cliques', all the official operatives involved will just, in the very first place, immediately and meticulously make all those fake 'pre-arrangements', synchronized collusions, false witnesess, false reports, false statements, false evidences, and sometimes, as a last resort, subtle 'settlements and compromises' with the authorities concerned to help any of them involved to 'completely cover up and get totally away' with every single inhumane thing they have done against the mentally-illed ones. And such atrocities just get to go on and on and on indefinitely with the powerful unanimous supports from so many 'authoritative people of concern'.

In fact, we as social workers have been asked to either join them in their spree of tortures and brutalities or to just stay totally out of 'their formal business'. And actually we have sort of faced certain subtle intimidations on and off along with such 'invitations / sollcitations'.

Whilst in most of the special-care nursing homes in which old senile people are getting taken care of, well, they quite often would tend have huge estates, monetary assets and other assets inherited to them and yet managed by their legal trustees due to their mental disabilities.

And the problem is that most of such 'legal trustees' would often exploit on their mental disability to 'legally appropriate' the estates, monetary assets and other assets of these pathetic people, substantially for their own sole private use, and quite often with almost complete impunities from legal prosecutions.

In this regard, I would always tend to see lots of such mentally-disabled old people who were 'officially millionaires and billionaires, who are actually compelled to live in poor living conditions, and sometimes, totally below the poverty line, whilst at the same time, they simply do not have even the slightest idea of what has actually happening to them.

While for all those private trustees, well, as long as their mentally-disabled beneficiaries are unable to take any legal actions against them, we as social workers would tend to see them living in fabulous luxuries, owning several huge bungalows and mansions, keep on changing expensive cars like Porshes, Rolls-Royces, Ferraris etc, leading an extravagant lifestyle of, womanisings, merry-makings, shopping-sprees and other forms of expensive splurgings, etc.

And one fundamental question involved is that such an extravagant lifestyle of those official trustees are preposterously, absolutely and completely out of proportion to the formal salaried income they are entitled / actually earn from their trustee fees for their profesional services.

Besides, out of so many official trustees for these old mentally-disabled 'millionaires' , billionaires etc who surprisingly are living in poverties, some of such official trustees appointed / recommended by someone else to run the related trust properties are actually undischarged bankrupts (both illegally and 'unexplainedly legally'). And as long as they keep up with their income tax payments and at the same time no one, especially their mentally-disabled beneficiaries actually come to question anything about their trust assets, they are thus free of harrassments from anyone, as well as enjoying rather complete impunities from prosecutions for their blatant crimes of criminal breaches of trust at the same time.

In such a connection, given that we are merely unofficial and unpaid voluntary social workers of these facilities and special-care nursing homes, whilst given the very fact that those mentally-disabled persons are unable to effectively defend themselves personally, it is thus very difficult for us to seek on their behalf the due justice that they rightfully deserve, especially given the fact that we are simply in no appropriate legal positions to take the particular legal course of actions against them.

And hence, that's exactly the key reason why me and the other social workers would have no other choice but to eventually expose the truths and the related complaints here through the internet to get the due concerns from the intended persons / authorities.

Messages From The Respondent :

"Is the system perfect? No. Still some abuse going on, but not a tenth of what was encountered 30 years ago. The bigger problem is more subtle pressure: doctors not doing their full duty to inform patients of the risks and benefits of treatment, doctors pressuring patients to comply under thinly veiled threats of court-ordered treatments that the doctors actually don't have the power to do, that kind of thing. Harder to enforce since it's more subtle than the flagrant abuses of the past. Still, we're after it when we find it."

My Replies :

You actually believe and are convinced totally with such posturings and all those smokescreens ? Are you actually an idiot ???

Then my moderate and respectful comments are : How pathetically ignorant and naive you are.

And as a matter of fact, I really pity all those related mentally-disabled persons even more in this case, for their welfares and well-beings would have to be further ignored and exploited through the silly and uninformed attitudes and actions of such gullible people like you and the others who actually blindly, ignorantly and credulously support the concealed malpratices, maltreatments, physical abuses of all those related medical operatives who 'pretend to be nice, kind, compassionate, righteous and benign, responsible, dedicated, ethical, committed etc' in front of you all, and perhaps the mentally-disabled ones that they concealedly torture and abuse.

Once again, how saddening and how outrageous.

As to the question of truthfulness of what I have said, maybe instead of the police, formal investigators, doctors, other formal operatives running such medical facilities (which are a part of the clique, and hence would not hesitate at all to lie in the very first place to protect one another), maybe you can just ask around from among the voluntary social workers like us, or better still the very in-patients themselves who are mentally-sound and yet courageous enough to tell you exactly what are the real things that have been going on.

And I sincerely wish and hope that you, maybe the others, won't get fooled again, at least not so easily the very next time.

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#424 - 08 May 2009 05:07 AM You-tube Video Clips, Public Polls etc [Re: ntuc]
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You-tube Video Clips, Public Polls and General Consensus Worldwide Meant To Gauge Public Opinions On The Very Acts of The Ones 'practising' Brutalities, Physical Abuses, Maltreatments, etc Onto The Mentally-ill Ones




Included below is another written message conversation between me and the other respondents from the other forum about the brutalities, cruelties, maltreatments, phsycial abuses, deliberate humiliations, derisions, ridicules, disparagings and other purposeful malicious acts administered, or rather inflicted deliberately upon the mentally-illed ones : -



Remarks From The Others :


"And that's supposed to mean ... what, exactly?"



My Replies :


"What a stupid question which is actually asked by such an apparently-imbecile like you. And do I really need to answer it ? Ok then, I would just do it for the sake of charity. And you actually appear to be pathetically ignorant to me and, actually to the others anyway as well.



tell you what, just yesterday I actually chat over the icq with some of the people who have got their medication-induced rapid eyelid-twitching / eye-blinking fully cured through the acupuncture technique that I have imparted to them previously.



And well, for your information, some of them have actually been hospitalised as in-patients before in certain psychiatric wards / hospitals (including the ones in U.S and other European countries). And they all have been physically abused before. Nevertheless, no one would bother at all to even listen to their complaints.



Next, by the time I show some of the posts made by you all to them, well, they just spontaneously react differently to those posts, especially the ones made by you. And whilst they have other mixed reactions as well for your posts, I can just tell from the webcam that they are all agitated and provocated."



Let's just consider one of the excerpts from one of your (Mr.XXXXXX) prior posts :



"How do you think I'd feel? Over the past 20 years, I've seen abuse, reported it, got people fired. I've led treatment teams, investigated abuse among my workers, got people fired for that too. And, I've worked for the State as an investigator, ferreting out these people - and getting them fired and placed on the watch-list. I've seen facilities in so much trouble over shoddy investigations that the head administrator and chief nurse were walked out the door by the owners. I've been part of getting at least one place closed down. In short, over the past couple decades I've worked the system that's responsible for ferreting out the people you've talked about from the bottom, the top, and the sides. I am a right royal pain in the ass for abusers."



My Replies :


So, getting people fired, getting them placed on the watch-list, getting their 'workplaces' closed down etc, and those are actually the ways you deal with the ones committing phsycial abuses, maltreatments and other brutalities against the mentally-ill ones ?



And hey, Mr xxxxxx, let me just ask you one very practical question. So, when you or the others get bashed up, physically abused, maltreated, and treated with brutalities by the other people, just what are those ' physically aggressive acts' called in the first place ?



Well, in case you don't know anything about law, I will tell you that. These are the actually the absolutely actionable crimes of aggravated assaults, grievous bodily harms, and maybe attempted murders etc.



And instead of getting the ones committing such acts to get sent to the police, to get sued by the authority, to stand trial for their crimes, and to be punished by jail sentences, you actually choose to 'punish' them by getting these people fired, getting them placed on the watch-list, getting their 'workplaces' closed down etc ???



Next, if the same things were to happen to you, you will just respond in the same ways too ? Well, we doubt that.



Well, just how preposterously silly and how weirdly outrageous and how funny it is. And this is by far the most ridiculous thing I have ever come across in my real-life.



Nevertheless, if that's actually the reality in such a way that the ones in the related official duties, are 'anyhow' / 'by some insidiously corrupted' means, are 'qualified', 'entitled', 'eligible' etc to 'get' above the law and to 'practice' brutalities, physical abuses, maltreatments against the mentally-ill one, totally at their own free will, whilst at the same time, with complete impunities from legal prosecutions, well, that will be truly and really saddening.



And if you feel that you have fully done your part in 'punishing' all those people who inflict physical abuses, maltreatments and other brutalities on the mentally-ill ones, then may I just respectfully say ' You Must Be Kidding'.



Remarks From The Others :


ntuc:"If you're in their shoes, how'd you feel, and how'd you react."
Beyond instrospective and bananced analysis, truth-seeking, I am fairly sure I would want to escape, and also to gain (regain) power, not necessarily in that order.




My Replies :


"Good points, then how about sending all those perpetrators to jail ?



And at the same time, they are committing crimes punishable by jail sentences anyway.



And preferably, get jailed for life."



Remarks From The Others :


"I doubt that there are enough truly honest unselfish people to fill the available incarceration facilities.
So, let's just let the various manifestations of "crazy" try to kill each other, open season, if you please. That would save a lot of public resources.


I suspect that you, too, are picking up on a Cyanidefreak mode. That is, post some semi-convincing contrarian reductions to absurdity.


(Preachy mode-on) I think that evolutionists are about as dishonest as the IDers and creationists.(Preachy mode-off)


I find our TT supporter Angus C. and his (personally invented bag of tricks) treatment of the Arab Israeli situation as less adequate than exiling *both* sides to Antartica to work things out, and maybe never come back. Humanely, maybe the Sahara would be better."




My Replies :


"Well, those points of yours really sound plausible at least to a certain extent.



Nevertheless, given the fact that those are merely some unilateral / one-sided views of yours, I would thus reasonably believe that not every people out there would simply agree with everything you all have said.



And tell you what, just recently, I have just come across some really sophisticated multimedia computer stuffs, especially the ones about the making of the you-tube video clips.



And to my surprise, I actually have never realized before that it's actually so easy and so handy to make all those you-tube video clips.



Next, when I talk with the others about the issues of deliberate brutalities, physical abuses, maltreatments etc inflicted upon the mentally-ill ones by the related official medical operatives-in-charge, we sort of share the same idea that 'hey, why not just let some people to film down, of course secretly and concealedly, all those fantastic and interesting scenes of brutalities, physical abuses, maltreatments, etc inflited onto the mentally-ill ones and then get all those real-life fascinating scenes included into the you-tube video clips, one after another, and then finally put them onto the internet for the viewing references of the others.



And well, since you all have sort off implied that all those brutalities, physical abuses, maltreatments, etc inflited onto the mentally-ill ones are fully and completely justified and warranted on both legal as well as humanitarian grounds, so, why not just include as well a public poll to each of those you-tube videos put onto the internet, so as to get a worldwide consensus that might just fully agree with all your views and opinions on the issues of the so-called 'completely rightful' brutalities, physical abuses, maltreatments, etc inflited onto the mentally-ill ones.



So, here's a brief reminder for the ones 'practising' brutalities, physical abuses, maltreatments, etc onto the mentally-ill ones :



There maybe other people watching, whilst at the same time, maybe the cameras and videos are filming down all those justified 'heroic' deeds of yours.



And the bottomline is : Your very appearance and the very real-life scenes of you 'practising' brutalities, physical abuses, maltreatments, etc onto the mentally-ill ones, well, there maybe a pretty good chance for them to be aired onto the internet for the watching references, or rather, pleasures of the others.



And when that sort of happens, well, just stay calm and don't get so surprised.



But hey, what's the fear for that given the very fact that 'you all simply have done nothing wrong when brutalizing, physically abusing, maltreating etc all those mentally-ill people, well, at least those maybe are really the 'legally justified acts'.



so, why not just let all those meritorious and heroic acts of yours to get widely known, and you all in turn may eventually just earn applauses, praises, compliments etc from the other people worldwide.



Lastly, it's quite a brilliant idea after all to get what you all have done to get eulogized worldwide by the others, isn't it ?"

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#426 - 15 May 2009 06:52 AM How would You React to Such Hard Evidences ? [Re: ntuc]
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How would you react to the hard evidences that would incriminate the ones deliberately brutalizing, maltreating and physically abusing mentally-ill people ?




As a matter of fact, I also wish that there's a Utopia, or rather, realisitcally a 'better world' out there, but unfortunately, the reality just somehow proves otherwise. And this is actually proven to me over and over again by all those secretly taken photos (mostly filmed down by concealed Cell Phones), other secretly taped video clips, recorded conversations etc that have been brought to my notices by my counterparts working in U.S and other European countries.



Next, I would like to ask you all one question :



If you were the one in possession of all these hard evidences which are all about the physical abuses, maltreatments and brutalities etc inflicted deliberately upon the mentally-ill ones, just how will you react in return ?



1 ) Destroying all those evidences immediately so as to protect the ones you deem to deserve such protections from you ? And in fact, that's exactly what the other co-workers of all those sadistic officers-in-charge would do without any hesitations in the very first place.



2 ) Getting them fired, getting them placed on the watch-list, getting their 'workplaces' closed down etc, and consider all those disciplinary actions as the so-called 'proportionate punishments' that these people would rightfully deserve ? And in fact, these are the things happening now exactly.



3 ) Getting the ones committing such brutal acts to get sent to the police, to get them sued by the authority, to get them stand trial for their crimes of aggravated assaults, grievous bodily harms, and maybe attempted murders etc, and then to get them punished by jail sentences like what I have suggested ?



As a matter of fact, we can't wait to choose the third option. Unfortunately, that would simply take the right time and the right opportunity as well as the right place for such a thing to happen eventually.

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#428 - 16 May 2009 09:46 PM Brutality Against The Mentally-ill ones-Follow-up [Re: ntuc]
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Brutalities, Maltreatments, physical Abuses, etc against The Mentally-ill ones - Follow-up





Included below is another written message conversation between me and the other respondents from the other forum about the brutalities, cruelties, maltreatments, phsycial abuses, deliberate humiliations, derisions, ridicules, disparagings and other purposeful malicious acts administered, or rather inflicted deliberately upon the mentally-illed ones : -



Remarks From The Others :


"tl;dr


Every day disabled and mentally ill people are abused in hospitals and care, don't you think we should do something about it?"




My Replies :


As a matter of fact, I fully echo your sentiments.



And, that's exactly the way we intend to deal with such inhumane people : -



"3 ) Getting the ones committing such brutal acts to get sent to the police, to get them sued by the authority, to get them stand trial for their crimes of aggravated assaults, grievous bodily harms, and maybe attempted murders etc, and then to get them punished by jail sentences like what I have suggested ?



As a matter of fact, we can't wait to choose the third option. Unfortunately, that would simply take the right time and the right opportunity as well as the right place for such a thing to happen eventually. "





However, in order for that to happen, we would need the ripe timing and the absolute as well as unanimous supports from most of the people worldwide.



So, we hope that most of you will give us your generous supports for such humanitarian causes of human rights and equal justices for everyone, particularly the mentally-ill ones who are unable to defend themselves at all.


Edited by ntuc (16 May 2009 09:55 PM)

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#429 - 20 May 2009 04:27 AM Other Ugly Truths About Cost-cutting Policy of Pub [Re: ntuc]
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Other Ugly Truths About Cost-cutting Policy of Public Psychiatric Medical Facility




Well, based on my experiences and other co-workers of mine of working as part / full-time social workers in the public psychiatric medical facilities, we would wish to reveal the following ugly truths about such medical facilities to the intended readers : -



A ) During the time when anyone was taken as an in-patient in such a medical facility, he / she will be forced to take whatever outdated antipsychotic medications which are full of almost immediately-manifesting disastrous side effects by all those salaried medical operatives and paramedics involved.



Next, each time such in-patients face such a scenario, they would simply have no rights at all to make any comments or complaints about it (such as a change for the better and more advanced medications with far lesser side effects etc).



And based on what I have observed, whenever any patients just try to make even the most polite and gentle comment about that, they would be treated really harshly in return, and sometimes just getting slapped and physically bashed up.



So, can you even see any human rights in such a scenario ?



B) No one would actually care about what will or has become of these in-patients eventually, apart from making them the objects of total sarcastic derisions for the sheer amusements of those paid medical operatives and paramedics of those medical facilities.



Besides, even when such disastrous side effects of the related medications have manifested onto and just keep getting worse and worse day after day for the related patients taking them, none of the paid medical operatives and paramedics-in-charge of such medical facilities would actually be bothered at all with anything going on to them.



On the contrary, under such scenarios, such salaried operatives would just ridicule them even more, making all such in-patients suffer even more physical and emotional pains.



And no one actually would care about their inner feelings.



C) whilst the worst part of it is that, instead of taking the corrective procedures and measures to redress the situations and to mitigate the pains and sufferings of such in-patients, such paid medical personnel would still insist such victims suffering from the disastrous side effects of the related outdated medications to continue to take them indefinitely, regardless of the further aggravated physical harms that may very welll inflict subseuqently and continually upon them.



In short, no change for the better and more advanced medications with similar curative benefits but far lesser disastrous side effects will be given to these in-patients regardless of any physical and emotional pains that they have been going through.



And this is done purely to save medical and medicine maintenance costs at the expenses of the health cares, well-beings, welfares and the very lives of these pitiful in-patients.



D) In such a connection, the worst of the worsts is that, those medical personnel doing such a practice of continually feeding such patients with the similar outdated medications, well, they actually and simply have the brazen audacity to claim that : "This is done totally out of the kind intention of maintaining and improving the quality of life of our patients" .



Well, as a matter of fact, in terms all those salaried medical personnel, medical operatives and paramedics, they just simply strike us as hypocritically callous, cruel and histrionically sinister, treacherous and conscienceless.



Lastly, we feel that these people should just go to hell and get burnt forever in inferno and get damned to perdition in hell immediately upon their deaths.



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#430 - 20 May 2009 04:29 AM Why Are The Ones Deliberately Brutalizing, Physica [Re: ntuc]
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Why Are The Ones Deliberately Brutalizing, Physically Abusing Maltreating etc The Mentally-ill Ones Never Get Legally Prosecuted - The Other Ugly Truths




As social workers working in the miscellaneous psychiatric medical facilities, these are a part of the ugly truths that we have witnessed and experienced on our very own so far, and hence, please give us your generous supports to improve things for the better for the sake of humanitarian causes and a better future as well as a better tomorrow for the mentally-ill ones.



In terms of the deliberate brutalities, cruelties, tortures, maltreatments, miscellaneous physical abuses, and other subtle, insidious forms of inequities and unfairness etc inflicted purposefully onto the mentally-ill ones kept in the mental hospitals, wards, etc, well, as a matter of fact, those medical operatives and paramedics in fact do enjoy tremendous automatic cover-ups for their own enjoyable perverted acts of sadisms.



Whilst the authorities, especially the doctors-in-charge, police, inspectors, etc, well, as a matter of fact, they do largely and more than willingly to almost automatically and spontanesouly connive any of their deliberate acts of brutalities, cruelties, tortures, maltreatments, miscellaneous physical abuses inflicted onto the mentally-ill ones.



Besides, such monstrosities are even excused and condoned totally even when these acts of cruelties are purposely done for the sheer amusements of all those medical operatives, paramedics etc, or rather, "practised" for the sheer and only purpose of gratifying their perverted sadistic whims and urges for tortures.



In such a connection, the underlying "justification" for such "acts of discretion" "exercised" by all those authorities is simply : "Well, mentally-ill people are hardly the real human beings at all, and hence they are simply not entitled to any legal human rights under the constitution.".



Or to put it bluntly, to these authorities and law enforcers, mentally-ill people are as good as livestocks and animals rightfully to get butchered and slaughtered. And hence, such deliberate acts of tortures, physical abuses, maltreatments, brutalities etc "practised" onto the mentally-ill ones, well, they would simply mean nothing inhumane at all to all those authorities and law enforcers (the police, inspectors etc).



Hence, if anyone were to ask all those authorities and law enforcers (the police, inspectors etc) to bring all those people "practising" the deliberate acts of tortures, physical abuses, maltreatments, brutalities etc "practised" onto the mentally-ill ones to justices, they most likely would just respond to you by saying " Hey, you must be kidding me".



This may just sound to be harshly cruel, but unfortunately, that's also the harsh reality of life that the most governments and other authorities are clinging to, legalizing and "practicing" in reality.



So, are we really going to just remain silent on these unfair issues that concern miscellaneous blatant violations of human rights and total disregards for human lives inflicted onto the ones who would otherwise rightfully and desperately deserve them ?



Lastly, please keep this one particular important thing in mind : Mentally-ill people are the ones susceptible to miscellaneous abuses and exploitation given the very fact that they are unable to protect and defend themselves at all.



So, we would like to make an earnest and sincere appeal to you all to uphold the human rights and the humanitarian principles that these people would otherwise definitely and absolutely deserve as human beings. Thank you.

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#539 - 26 Nov 2009 07:40 AM Additional Information About Modern And Outdated M [Re: ntuc]
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Additional Information About Modern And Outdated Medications For Mental Disorders



Besides, I would like to add that as far as the harmful and nearly unavoidable muscle spasms (involuntary restless bodily / muscular movements such as rapid purposeless uncontrollable eye-blinking / eyelid-twitching, Hemifacial Spasms, Tardive Dyskinesia, Dystonia etc) and other neurological disorders arising from the harmful neuromuscular / neurological / neuro-degenerative side effects of certain medications are concerned, there have been in fact a great variety of other far better medications with greater curative effects and far lesser harmful side effects getting invented from time to time nowadays by the modern medical science in order to overcome this problem.



Nevertheless, the usual current practice of most medical practitioners nowadays are such that they would prefer to prescribe and dispense the inferior and outdated medications to their patients owing to the far lower costs of these medications, and hence the health cares of the patients are getting unfairly exploited and jeopardized in such a scenario.



For an instance, the medication called chlorpromazine is actually one of the examples of the longly outdated first-generation antipsychotic medications that has long been superseded by the other far better second and third-generation antipsychotics ever since decades ago. However, such inferior and outdated medications are still the commonly preferred choices for prescriptions and dispensing of most medical practitioners nowadays.



Examples of First-generation antipsychotics for treating schizophrenia :


http://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/first-generation-antipsychotics-for-treating-schizophrenia



In such a connection, please refer to the website as follows for some overviews of all these first, second and third-generation antipsychotics.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipsychotics

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#545 - 06 Dec 2009 05:20 AM Mental Disorders : Brief Analysis and Summary [Re: ntuc]
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Mental Disorders : Brief Analysis and Summary



Actually, one thing to take note here is that the chemical imbalance in the brain (especially mood-regulator, Serotonin) leading to the mental disorder is actually caused by disturbances to one's mood in the very first place that might arise as a result of various emotionally unpleasant / unacceptable factors, scenarios, events, persons, surroundings, etc that are considered upsetting, distressing and even traumatic to certain people (resulting thus in disturbances to the normal functionings of neurotransmitter chemical, Serotonin and then such chemical imbalance in the brain). All in all, the question as to whether a person facing or confronting with such emotionally unpleasant / unacceptable factors, scenarios, events, persons, surroundings, etc will eventually suffer from mental disorder or not, that would largely and mostly depend on how good or how bad one is able to tolerate, put up and adapt oneself to all such emotionally unpleasant / unacceptable adversities without getting emotionally disturbed in the end.



Next, for drugs such as anti-depressants and anti-anxieties (for neurosis - less serious mental disorder) and antipsychotics / neuroleptics (for psychosis- more serious mental disorder characterized by serious hallucinations, and in fact, the powerful mind-altering agents), they are in fact a simplified way of chemical solution to various mental disorders.



In such a connection, their chemical mechanism is such that they would serve to artificially block the negative nerve impulses (negative thoughts, feelings, emotions etc) from getting sent to the brain, and thus temporarily stop a person from getting upset, distressed, depressed etc throughout the effective period of the each drug dosage (that may last for mere hours). In the process of doing so and given the fact that the entire mechanism is purely artificial by drug interception rather than natural, the synaptic activities of the neurons and the neurotrasmitters chemicals especially Serotonin and Dopamine (the neurotransmitter chemical responsible for human bodily movements) etc of the nervous systems would unavoidably be interferred and antagonized in the end.



Subsequently, such a phenomenon would then eventually lead to certain neurological / neuromuscular and in the worst case scenario, the neuro-degenerative symptoms getting developed as the side effects of these drugs for mental disorders. And hence, modern medical science actually tries to overcome such these problems by inventing the more and more advanced versions of the newer and better drugs with ever-decreasing harmful side effects from time to time for the sake of the health cares and well-beings of the ones using them.



At the same time, another thing to take note as well is such that since the human bodies would gradually develop tolerances for any medications, including the ones for mental disorders, and especially the ones that are fed to them repeatedly over the long-term, such medications for mental disorders would hence become addictive themselves whereby larger and larger dosages would gradually be required from time to time to achieve the similar therapeutical effects, and then eventually, they would lose their intended artificial curative effects particularly when they are over-relied upon to the point of sheer abuse whilst no other non-medicational efforts are taken to deal with such mental disorders.



As such, given the ultimately inevitable risks of side effects of such drugs, my opinions are such that the more practical and realistic solution to mental disorders is such that whilst taking the related drugs to curb and bring down the uncontrollable symptoms of mental disorders, such as feelings of deep depressions, deep hallucinations, violent emotional outbursts etc, as well as making the necessary efforts to benefit oneself to the best possible extent from the newer and better drugs with ever-decreasing harmful neurological side effects for such mental disorders which are invented from time to time by the modern medical science, such medications should be used wisely with all the precautionary measures. Whilst at the same time, other non-medicational efforts of emotional and communication supports from the others etc to cheer and brighten up one's mood and spirit as well as the related self-control efforts (to control one's mood and tempers) should thus also be taken at the same time to deal with such mental disorders more effectively towards the goals of gradual improvements as well as final and full recoveries.


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#604 - 30 May 2010 07:51 PM Mental Disorders / Cognitive Behavioural Process - [Re: ntuc]
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Mental Disorders / Cognitive Behavioural Process - Perceptions => Feelings => Thoughts => Behavioural / Personality Changes / Reactions / Actions / Responses



Actually, given the underlying fact that mental disorders are actually something that arise from such psychological and cognitive factors of how one perceives one's surroundings etc, the feelings they have in response to those perceptions, then the various thoughts they form in their minds based on such perceptions and feelings for anything they perceive, and finally, how they choose to react to such perceptions, feelings and thoughts, they are thus very much different from the other physiological / bodily / metabolism-related somatic diseases like diabetes, heart attacks, kidney failures etc.


In short, mental illnesses which are defined by one's behavioural / personality changes, appropriateness of their behaviours, personalities, actions, reactions, responses as perceived and judged by the others, who in turn would label them as a variety of related mental disorder symptoms, they are actually caused by the various negative, abnormal, preposterous thoughts and various urges which are formed in one's mind in response to what they see, sense and feel about their surroundings etc.


As such, in addition to the medicational efforts put in to bring the hardly controllable symptoms of mental disorders such as deep feelings of depressions, nervous breakdown, violent emotional outbursts etc effectively under control temporarily throughout the effective period of each dosage of the medications, such non-medicational efforts of psychotherapy, seeking emotional and psychological comforts as well as interactive, interpersonal, communication supports from the ones close to such people would also be quite indispensable in dealing with various mental disorders.


Apart from that, given that negative behavioural changes caused by mental disorders are actually caused by such negative feelings and negative thoughts formed by negative sensory perceptions of anything around one's surroundings, one should thus try to control oneself when coming across and dealing with all those scenarios so as to try one's best not to have too strong emotional attachment / feelings for all those negative surroundings etc as well as try not to over-react to them. In short, one should apply one's reasonable senses and judgements and rationalities when dealing with anything unpleasant to them.


Theorectically, since one's reactions / responses / behaviourial changes actually arise from one's thoughts, such reactions / responses / behavioural changes would thus not occur at all if one could choose to ignore all those unpleasant phenomena totally and not form any negative thoughts in their minds at all. However, that would sound to be easier said than done.


As a summary,


I'm suggesting the following as a solution to mental disorders :


1/3 of medicational helps + 1/3 of psychotherapies, interactive, interpersonal, emotional, communication, conselling supports from the others + 1/3 of self-determinations, self-initiatives, self-controls, self-wills and self-disciplines to think positively, rationally, realistically and practically as well as to lead a normal and healthy life


These are actually the advices I have obtained from many neurologists, psychiatrists, psychotherapists and psychologists as well as the very conclusions I have experienced myself.


Next, I must admit that it's quite arbitrary for me to do so in the first place. However, given the fact that there are more and more people nowadays, especially the ones having the mental disorders who would tend to rely heavlily, and if not completely, but at the same time, rather ignorantly upon medications as their sole and only means of dealing with their mental disorders, hence, by assigning the numerical proportion of '1/3' to each of those 3 variables for that 'equation' I'm just trying to convey a message to the intended readers that such factors as external psychotherapies, interactive / interpersonal, emotional / moral supports from the others as well as self-controls / self-efforts to think positively, they are just fairly as important as the medications when it comes to dealing with mental disorders.


Edited by ntuc (30 May 2010 07:53 PM)

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#655 - 17 Jul 2010 03:11 AM Re: Mental Disorders / Cognitive Behavioural Process - [Re: ntuc]
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Why Non-medicational Interpersonal Or (And) Impersonal Emotional Comforts, Reliefs, Supports etc Are So Essential As A Part of The Holistic Approach For Mental Disorders ?



Well, I have suggested in my previous posts about the following as the holistic approach for mental disorders :


1/3 of medicational helps + 1/3 of psychotherapies, interactive, interpersonal, emotional, communication, conselling supports from the others + 1/3 of self-determinations, self-initiatives, self-controls, self-wills and self-disciplines to think positively, rationally, realistically and practically as well as to lead a normal and healthy life ;


As such, I would like to emphasize once again that the non-medicational emotional comforts, reliefs, supports etc either in interpersonal or impersonal forms (and a combination of both depending on different mental conditions of different mentally-ill people), are in fact, very essential and indispensable in enabling the ones troubled with mental disorders to make real, genuine, long-lasting and sustainable improvements for their mental conditions towards the path of full recoveries in the end.


Well, based on what I have learnt so far from the psychologists is that, everyone of us naturally are born with the innate urges to get upset, angry and even mad especially when we face certain surroundings, incidences, people that are considered unpleasant to us.


Next, in terms of normal people who are not troubled by any mental illnesses, they normally have the mental abilities derived from their sensible minds and sanities to at least try to resist and overcome such urges to get upset, angry, mad etc whenever they feel like doing so by trying on their very own to calm themselves down.


Whilst in terms of the ones troubled with mental disorders, well, given that their mind powers are weaker, they thus have lesser abilities to do so, and hence would tend to more easily get upset, angry, mad etc at things that are considered to be unpleasant to them.


As a matter of fact, in terms of psychological reasoning, the mental abilities of the normal healthy mentally-sound people to at least try to resist such urges to get upset, angry, mad etc, such as what I have mentioned above, well, such mental abilities actually come from the "calming forces" nurtured, developed and accumulated into their respective minds on an ongoing way, normally and spontaneously without even them noticing it, through such events, incidences, activities, surroundings, people etc in their everyday life that would naturally make them feel happy, joyous, serene etc.


Whilst for the ones troubled with mental disorders, since they do not have enough / are very much lacking in such "calming forces" in their conscious / subconscious minds, they thus face certain difficulties in trying to control their moods and mental conditions in the effective ways like the normal healthy people who are mentally sound.


For example, given a distressing incidence, different people would tend to react differently to it. Whilst the persons who are mentally sound could just at least try their best not to get upset too easily by such an unpleasant incidence, the ones troubled with mental diorders such as depression etc, may just turn out to be emotionally weaker and could not resist the urges to get depressed etc. In short, there are just not enough "calming forces" in their own minds to enable them to resist such urges to do so.


As such, non-medicational emotional comforts and reliefs are thus very important and essential in nurturing, developing and accumulating such "calming forces" in the minds of the ones troubled with mental disorders in such a way that when they have gathered enough and sufficient "calming forces" in their own minds, they would then be able to consciously stabilize their mental conditions and exercise certain self-controls on their own so as to at least try to resist the urges and refrain themselves to get upset, angry, mad at others etc especially when facing certain unpleasant incidences.


Besides, in terms of general cognitive behavioural process of Perceptions (anything we see, we hear, we know, we taste, we touch etc from our surroundings / other people) => Feelings (the way we feel about our surroundings and other people based on anything we see, hear, know, taste, touch etc) => Thoughts (the types of views and opinions that we form in our minds based on the types of feelings we have for anything we perceive) => Actions (how we choose to react in response to those surroundings / other people based on the feelings and thoughts that arise in our minds),


psychologically, the entire process can actually be explained in such a way that when the particular surroundings, environments, people's behaviours / attitudes etc (Perceptions) just through some effectively positive means / efforts of non-medicational emotional comforts / reliefs etc, appear to be pleasant, peaceful and friendly to certain people troubled with mental disorders, they would thus get to become calmer and calmer in a natural way in the long-run especially when they are continually exposed to such pleasant surroundings, environments, people's friendly behaviours / attitudes etc on a permanently ongoing basis (Feelings), and when such "calming forces" are accumulated sufficiently in their very own minds, this would then enable them to at least try to resist any thoughts / urges to feel upset, angry, mad etc at certain incidences, especially the ones that they have never expected and that are considered unpleasant to them (Thoughts). Finally and ideally, such an ongoing scenario would thus result in gradually step by step improvements in their mental conditions especially in terms of positive behavioural changes for the better and better conditions (Actions).


Similarly, the same explanations would apply as well to other scenarios that anyone, including the ones who are mentally-sound, face in their everyday life.


For instance, when the mentally-sound healthy persons are exposed, especially unwillingly to certain hostile, harsh and unfriendly surroundings / environments / people (Perceptions) for a certain long period of time, and no matter how tolerant they may initially get to be, they may just lose their patience at one particular point of time in that they might couldn't help themselves but to feel annoyed, angry, upset, mad etc in the end (Feelings). Next, the accumulated calming forces they possess would then start depleting gradually initially, and then substantially as times go by, in that they may just start forming negative thoughts about the hostile, harsh and unfriendly surroundings / environments / people they face in their everyday life, even without them noticing such a change in the negative ways they think (Thoughts). In the end, such thoughts may just give rise to certain negative behavioural changes in them by becoming enervative / dejected, acting angrily, furiously etc (Actions).


And, let me just give you all one example, and please bear in mind that it is just for references purpose only. Well, I have dealt with a patient having such a symptom that he couldn't help himself at all but simply has the irresistable urges to appear himself to be violently mad to others (without any intentions to harm anyone at all) whenever he talks to any other people. Whilst such urges in him to automatically get "mad" at others when talking to them, have just become so overwhelming and involuntarily uncontrollable that it has become habitual, even beyond his very own free wills, subconsciousness and consciousness in that, he simply could not realize what he is doing when he unintentionally get mad at the others. In short, his sensibilities, mind powers, self-wills and sanities largely could not overcome and resist such urges at such a stage.


And upon knowing that the particular patient likes to gaze at the sea during sunset and having observed that the patient's mood tends to get better whenever and after he does so, I would, without the patient knowing anything, make the arrangements accordingly for the particular patient to get to the seaside to gaze at the sea during sunset as frequently as possible so let he could get naturally calmer and calmer as time goes by.


Next, when the particular patient is confident and comfortable enough to relate to other people, and is able to summon enough courages to confide in me, I would then request that patient to take me along to his favourite seaside to admire both the beautiful surroundings of the seaside and the marvellous views of the sunset.


Subsequently, I will try my best to talk about anything in inductive, subtle, indirect, subliminal and friendly communicational manners that are acceptable to him and could make him feel happy, joyous, serene, confident and sensible just like his good friend (from his very own perspective), rather than as a social worker trying to improve his mental conditions or to cure him.


All in all, my very purpose of doing so is primarily, and indirectly without him knowing anything at all (so as to avoid any unnecessary stress that may potentially arise on his part), to cultivate and nurture bit by bit such "calming forces" into his mind in such a way that when such "calming forces" are accumulated sufficiently in him, that would give him the very ability to be conscious and mentally stronger enough to at least to try to resist such urges to get mad automatically at the others without him being totally unable to resist such urges at all.


In addition, such a way of indirect counselling would actually serve to indirectly induce, inspire and encourage the ones troubled with mental disorders to gradually step-by-step, think positively, sensibly and rationally on their very own in such a way that they could slowly and on an ongoing basis, regain their consciousness and sanities bit by bit from time to time.


Besides, in terms of the principles of general cognitive behavioral process of Perceptions => Feelings => Thoughts => Actions, this is also the very basic concept that we, as voluntary social workers, apply in figuring out various inductive, subtle, indirect, subliminal and friendly ways and means to effectively help the mentally-ill people troubled with different mental problems of different causes, symptoms and degrees of severities, so as to bring about positive personality changes in them gradually step-by-step.


Apart from that, essentially a great deal of patience, considerations and tolerances would be required especially from the ones who really care about and want to help the persons troubled with mental disorders so as to genuinely improve their mental conditions gradually and slowly step by step towards full recoveries.





Next, for the medications intended for and are particularly very effective in bringing down especially the uncontrollable symptoms of mental disorders, I would like to add that :


Whilst in terms of medications for mental disorders, especially the antipsychotics / neuroleptics for psychosis disorders, well, they invariably would work in such a way that they would artificially intercept with the synaptic activities of the neurotransmitters chemical serotonin, dopamine etc so as to artificially block any negative nerve impulses from getting sent to the brains, and in this way, the related patients would get to calm down and be pacified substantially throughout the effective period of each dosage of such medications. And that's particularly the reason why they are labelled as powerful tranquilizers and mind-altering drugs that work by changing the effects of chemicals in the brain.


Nevertheless, in terms of such drug treatments, since the whole mechanisms are totally artificial and given the fact that the interceptions of the neurotransmitters chemicals and the blockings of negative nerve impulses by the therapeutical / curative effects of such antipsychotics / neuroleptics are actually no different from false / artificially forced suppressions of those nerve impulses, rather than a natural process by themselves, various neurological disorders would thus arise when such powerful antipsychotics / neuroleptics are over-relied upon to the point of sheer abuse in the long-term especially when the normal functionings of neurotransmitters chemicals are disturbed and disrupted in the end. Next, given the fact that the various nervous systems work with our brains to maintain the normal functionings of the human bodies, the brains would then get affected too in the worst case scenario in the end, and that would include structural changes of the brains.


In reality, what would really happen is such that the artificial therapeutical mechanisms of "forced suppressions" of negative nerve impulses and artificial interferences with the synaptic activities of the neurotransmitters, neurons, nervous systems and brains through taking such related medications would actually numbed the cognitive senses of the ones taking them. And that's the main reason why certain people taking such medications, would just appear like a zombie to the others over the effective period of each dosage of the related medications.


And as a matter of fact, all the antipsychotics / neuroleptics and any medications for mental disorders, well, no matter how advanced they are, there is simply no way for such medications to deliver any of the actual healing effects that are equivalent to the interpersonal counselling therapies / emotional supports from the close ones etc, that the mentally-ill people need for further genuine improvements of their mental conditions and their final recoveries in the end.


Besides, given their subsequent potentially disastrous neurological / neuromuscular, and in the worst-case scenario, neuro-degenerative side effects such as Parkinsonism, Dementia, Alzheimers etc which involve damages and losses of brain cells, neurons etc, certain efforts and precautions thus would be necessary to avoid the manifestations of all these undesirable side effects of such medications.


All in all, I am not saying that antipsychotics / neuroleptics and other related medications meant for the treatments of various mental disorders are bad for the ones taking them. Well, such medications, in my opinion, actually work like double-edged swords whereby on one part, they are very effective in bringing the undesirable symptoms of mental disorders under control, whilst the downsides of them are such that their subsequent hazardous neurological / neuromuscular and neuro-degenerative side effects are definitely undesirable for anyone taking them. As such, careful precautions would need to be exercised closely to guard against the eventual manifestations of the hazardously undesirable side effects of such medications for mental disorders.


Besides, In terms of psychological mental disorders which are totally different from other physiological / bodily / somatic / disorders such as heart attacks, diabetes, kidney failures etc, taking such medications for mental disorders are in fact, not the conclusive cure / solution to such disorders.


Next, as a matter of fact, other non-medicational efforts such as what I have mentioned above, should also be put in and taken at the same time to complement all the inadequacies and shortcomings of such medications as well as to achieve a holistic approach for the treatments of various mental disorders.


In short, the non-medicational "calming forces" that could be cultivated, nurtured, developed and accumulated and instilled little by little indirectly into the minds of the ones troubled with mental disorders through such efforts of non-medicational emotional comforts and reliefs are thus essential and indispensable in enabling them to at least be able to try to control their own moods and emotions especially when facing anything unpleasant to them, as well as helping them to achieve genuine, long-lasting and sustainable improvements for their mental conditions towards the path of final recoveries.


In addition, generally and basically, all the non-medicational efforts of psychotherapies, interactive, interpersonal, emotional, communication, conselling supports etc from the others who really care about the ones troubled with mental illnesses, such as what I have mentioned above, are thus very important in building up such "calming forces" in them.


Next, in terms of all such non-medicational efforts to provide emotional comforts, reliefs, supports etc to the ones troubled with mental problems, there are simply no hard and fast / fixed rules / ways for them to be conducted in that such efforts to produce such "calming forces" in them can be flexibly anything positive that are emotionally comfortable and acceptable to the related persons troubled with mental disorders. In short, such non-medicational mental comforts, reliefs, supports etc can come in any forms (either interpersonally or impersonally and a combination of these two efforts depending on the different mental conditions of different people) that appeal / are naturally mentally-comforting to the ones troubled with mental disorders, such as the example mentioned above.


All in all, all these non-medicational efforts that could be interpersonal as well as impersonal or a combination of these two efforts depending on the different mental conditions of different people, they are all directed to the very purpose of giving ongoing emotional comforts, reliefs and supports to the ones troubled with mental disorders so that they could gather and accumulate enough as well as sufficient "calming forces" into their minds to straighten out their thoughts, to clear out the confusions and disturbances troubling their minds, to let they themselves become more and more emotionally stronger and mentally sounder, and most importantly, to enable them make genuine, sustainable, long-lasting improvements for their mental conditions as well as to help them slowly regain their sanities from time to time towards the very goal of their final recoveries from mental disorders.


In short, the entire psychological process can be summarized as follows :


Non-medicational interpersonal or (and) impersonal emotional comforts, reliefs, supports and "calming forces" cultivated, nurtured and accumulated gradually, continually and sufficiently into the minds of the of the ones troubled with mental problems


=> (will bring about)


More and more self-confidences, higher and higher levels of self-consciousnesses and greater and greater sanities that would enable these persons to at least try to calm themselves down, to stabilize their mental conditions on their own, to think lucidly and reasonably and to act / respond rationally to what they deal with in their everyday life.


Edited by ntuc (17 Jul 2010 03:26 AM)

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#669 - 06 Aug 2010 01:32 AM The Ugly Realities of The Modern Day Medical Profe [Re: ntuc]
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The Ugly Realities of The Modern Day Medical Professions



Included below is an excerpt of a conversation between me and the others about the ugly realities of the modern day medical professions.



Remarks made by the other person :

"The doctors you posed the questions to, such as your psy. or opthamologist could only give you a answer for something they are trained in. They cannot give you a all encompassing diagnoses, of which you seeked at the time of asking. To even think they could, predicts their answer before you even pose the question to them."



My Replies :

With all due respect, what you have said is completely misleading and sophistical. Well, the medical professionals, in regard to their professional accreditations, they should at least have the necessary professional awarenesses and abilities so as to be able to judge, realise and recognise what have actually happened to their patients, especially in terms of the undisputedly clear-cut side effects of the related medications dispensed and prescribed by the related medical professionals.



For example, when all the or certain completely undisputed side effects of certain medications dispensed by certain doctors, medical specialists, personnel etc have just obviously and explicitly manifested onto their patients, and then, if the particular doctors, medical specialists, personnel etc, upon being questioned by the related patients about such serious matters, and then such "doctors" just simply reply capriciously and cavalierly that "I don't know what have happened to you", and hence, what simply would that be or mean then ?



And of course the insightful others would straightaway recognise and realise that the particular "doctors" are trying to fool their patients around as well as to shirk and avoid their medical professional obligations and responsibilities. So, would that be really fair and acceptable to the patients, especially the ones earnestly seeking treatments from such "doctors".



Besides, in certain cases, being unable to give a correct diagnosis for certain illnesses also would not in any ways justify and warrant any doctors and other medical professionals to give arbitrary diagnosis based on "what they know within their areas of medical expertises", especially when such diagnosis are simply and haphazardly given in peremptory, solely and yet misleadingly self-opinionted manners, such as the examples given about the so-called "professional behaviours" of those "opthamologists" mentioned in my prior post above.



All in all, all such unethical medical "professional behaviours" would undisputedly to the very least extent, give rise to gross professional negligences in the context of professional medical code of ethics.



For full conversation and further information, please refer to the follows :


http://forum.neurologychannel.com/hc-for...t=&start=50

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#676 - 25 Aug 2010 05:49 AM Brief Summary of The Prior Posts Above [Re: ntuc]
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Brief Summary of The Posts Above



Well, objectively the point is that all such medications for mental disorders, including the antipsychotics / neuroleptics are important and extremely much more useful than anything else in serving the primary purpose of bringing down and suppress all the hardly controllable and involuntary symptoms of the mental disorders such as violent emotional outbursts, purposeless abrupt traumatic reactions, various phobia behaviours, miscellaneous involuntary and uncontrollable deep hallucinations / delusions etc. This is the case especially and particularly when no other interpersonal efforts from other persons could achieve such a purpose.



However, when it comes to genuinely treating the mentally-ill people so as to enable their mental conditions and cognitive sanities to get practically and realistically better and better in a permanently sustainable manner from time to time as well as to let them feel more and more confident about themselves, that would be another different story. This is due to the very undisputed fact that all the antipsychotics / neuroleptics and any medications for mental disorders, well, no matter how advanced they are, there is simply no way for such medications to deliver any of the actual healing effects that are equivalent to the interpersonal counselling therapies / emotional supports from the close ones etc, that the mentally-ill people need for further genuine improvements of their mental conditions (so as to enable them so slowly and graudally regain their actual sanities and cognitive / mental abilities from time to time) and their final recoveries in the end. This is mainly due to the fact that when it comes to mental illnesses, no medications would be able to permanently, irreversibly, and particularly, realistically and practically change the mentally psychological, rather than the bodily / metabolism-related physiological aspects of what and how the mentally-ill people would perceive, feel, think about their surroundings, environments and the people they deal with, as well as their resultant actions, reactions, behaviours based on their respective subsequent outcomes of those 3 key factors. Whilst normally, such medications for mental illnesses, with their artificial neurological effects, would merely just serve the purpose of temporarily and mechanically numb the cognitive senses of their users so as to artificially make them "unable to feel and think about anything at all" throughout the effective period of each dosage of such medications. And as such, medications for mental disorders alone would thus not be able to realistically, practically and genuinely enable to get the mentally-ill people totally cured in the end. Hence, other non-medicational efforts as mentioned, explained and elaborated in detail in my prior posts above are thus required and indispensably necessary to enable the mentally-ill people to achieve the realistic, genuine and practical long-term real improvements for their mental conditions and sanities gradually step-by-step towards the path of full recoveries.



All in all, such constructive non-medicational impersonal and (or) interpersonal efforts and emotional supports are very much important in reinforcing and strengthening the confidences, self-wills, determinations and sanities of the mentally-ill people in helping them to recover from their mental illnesses gradually, realistically and sustainably step-by-step.


Edited by ntuc (25 Aug 2010 07:39 AM)

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#692 - 13 Sep 2010 10:04 AM My Experiences of Getting Totally Cured Once and F [Re: ntuc]
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My Experiences of Getting Totally Cured Once and For All From Mental Disorders & The Related Neuromuscular Tardive Dyskinesia Side Effects of The Related Medications My Experiences of Getting Totally Cured Once and For All From Mental Disorders & The Related Neuromuscular Tardive Dyskinesia Side Effects of The Related Medications



Included below are the genuine articles about my experiences of getting totally cured once and for all from both of the mental disorders & the related neuromuscular Tardive Dyskinesia side effects of The related medications. Next I hope that the information given will be helpful and useful to the intended readers. Thank you.



http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1112472#i (Eyecare / Hemifacial Spasm : Medication-induced Non-stop Persistent Eyelid-twitching - How I Eventually Get It Totally Cured By Acupuncture & Other Medical Details)



http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1233341#i (A New Version For The Self-administered, Needle-free, Free-Of-Charge, Painless & Harmless Acupuncture Cure For Non-stop Persistent Rapid Eyelid-twitching / Eye-blinking)



http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1386471#i (The Story Behind The Suggested Self-administered, Free-of-charge, Needle-free, Painless, Harmless Acupuncture Method /Technique For Abnormally Rapid Eyelid-twitching / Eye-blinking Described Above)

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#702 - 20 Sep 2010 06:12 AM Dopamine & Mental Disorders [Re: ntuc]
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Dopamine & Mental Disorders



Dopamine is actually one of the main neurotransmitters chemicals secreted and released by the countless of neurons (nerve cells) and brain cells of our miscellaneous bodily nervous systems and brains. Whilst the other main neurotransmitters chemicals would be Serotonin which plays the important role in "determining" how we feel based on whatever we see / perceive.



And well, the main function of the fluidly neurotransmitters chemical dopamine, which exist everywhere and anywhere in our human bodies and within the miscellaneous nervous systems, and "work" closely, mechanically and spontaneously with one another, is actually to control and co-ordinate our human bodily movements through their synaptic activities.



Basically, the synaptic activities is all about sending and receiving the various nerve and sensory impulses (originating from our sensory perceptions, feelings and thoughts) to the brains along the miscellaneous bodily nervous systems so that all the human bodily movements can be conducted freely at will by any normal human beings.



Nevertheless, the synaptic activities of the neurotransmitters chemical dopamine, in certain cases, can be interrupted and disrupted by the artificial curative mechanisms of certain medications, especially the mind-altering drugs such as antipsychotics / neuroleptics that serve to numb the cognitive senses of the brains by preventing the "neuro-traffics" of such nerve and sensory impulses from getting sent to / from the brains, resulting thus in miscellaneous neurological and neuromuscular disorders which are caused by interruptions to the synaptic activities of the neurotransmitters chemical, dopamine.



As such, please consider the excerpts below :

"All antipsychotic drugs tend to block D2 receptors in the dopamine pathways of the brain. This means that dopamine released in these pathways has less effect. Excess release of dopamine in the mesolimbic pathway has been linked to psychotic experiences. It is the blockade of dopamine receptors in this pathway that is thought to control psychotic experiences"

which are quoted from : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipsychotics



In such a connection, the neurological and neuromuscular disorders caused by interruptions to the neurotransmitters chemical dopamine would be especially the movement disorders of Extrapyramidal Symptoms (EPS) , Tardive Dyskinesia, Dystonia, Neuroleptic Malignant Syndrome (NMS), Parkinsonism etc.


Hence, please consider the excerpts below :

"Dyskinesias are movement disorders and can include any of a number of repetitive, involuntary, and purposeless body or facial movements.
They can include:

Tongue movements, such as "tongue thrusts" or "fly-catching" movements
Lip smacking
Finger movements
Eye blinking
Movements of the arms or legs.


An individual may or may not be aware of these movements. These movements are usually quite recognizable, and many people fear that others will know they are taking an antipsychotic medication due to these unusual movements.

Tardive dyskinesia is a dyskinesia that occurs after long-term treatment with an antipsychotic medication. Sometimes, this condition may become permanent."


which are quoted from :

http://schizophrenia.emedtv.com/extrapyramidal-symptoms/extrapyramidal-symptoms.html



Other Related Information :


Tardive Dyskinesia (TD) :

http://schizophrenia.emedtv.com/tardive-dyskinesia/tardive-dyskinesia.html



Antipsychotics :

http://schizophrenia.emedtv.com/antipsychotics/antipsychotics.html




Related Information About Synaptic Activities Disorders of Neurotransmitters Dopamine & The Related Cures For Them :



http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1631689#i

http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1428915#i

http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1428920#i

http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1233341#i


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#720 - 30 Sep 2010 12:46 AM Miscellaneous Nervous Systems & Neurotransmitters [Re: ntuc]
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Miscellaneous Nervous Systems & Neurotransmitters



Well, apart from the well-known central nervous system, there are other nervous systems such as peripheral nervous system, somatic nervous system, autonomic nervous system, enteric nervous system, sympathetic nervous system, parasympathetic nervous systems etc in our human bodies that co-ordinate with one another through the ubiquitous neuron networks to maintain the all the normal functionings of our human bodies.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Nervous_System - Central nervous system (CNS)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peripheral_nervous_system - Peripheral nervous system (PNS)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomic_nervous_system - Autonomic nervous system (ANS)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somatic_nervous_system - Somatic nervous system (SNS)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enteric_nervous_system - Enteric nervous system (ENS)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_nervous_system - Sympathetic nervous system (SNS)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasympathetic_nervous_system - parasympathetic nervous system (PSNS)



As for the different types of neurotransmitters, they would include dopamine, serotonin, Amino acids, glutamate, aspartate, serine, ă-aminobutyric acid (GABA), glycine, Monoamines, norepinephrine (noradrenaline; NE, NA), epinephrine (adrenaline), histamine, melatonin, acetylcholine (ACh), adenosine, anandamide, nitric oxide, etc which are secreted and released by neurons (nerve cells) and brain cells in the human bodies of these miscellaneous nervous systems as mentioned above along with the ubiquitous neuron networks of our human bodies to maintain the normal functioningis of our human bodies.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurotransmitter - Neurotransmitters



Next, if the synaptic activities of these neurons (nerve cells), brain cells, miscellaneous nervous systems and the ubiquitous neuron networks are interrupted and disrupted by the disastrous side effects of medications, the resulting medical consequences would in totally inconceivable and unimaginable such as what I have explained earlier on in my prior posts above.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_synapse - Chemical synapse / Synaptic activities









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#724 - 05 Oct 2010 02:51 AM Further Follow-up [Re: ntuc]
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Included below is a conversation between me and the other third party about mental disorders & illnesses, the advantageous, disadvantageous of the medications for such illnesses and disorders as well as how such medications actually work in reality and what purposes they are supposed to serve along with several flaws, defects and demerits of the modern mainstream medical science and system. Next I hope that the information provided will be useful and helpful to the intended readers.



Remarks from the other person :

"Speaking of neurotransmitters, much is made by the medical community about their alleged central role in depression and anxiety. However, this is largely unproven."




My replies :

Well, it's totally undeniable that human bodies depend on the neurological mechanisms of neuron, brains, neuron networks, miscellaneous nervous systems, the many types of neurotransmitters chemical for all our bodily functionings which include cognitive and movement abilities etc. And that's the reason why the people with Parkinsonism, Dementia, Alzheimers etc whose brain cells and neurons have been substantially destroyed (and hence no neurotransmitter chemicals can be released / secreted out of them) could not think, act and behave properly at all.



Remarks from the other person :

"There is, for instance, no lab test that can be done to show that depression or anxiety sufferers do indeed suffer from low serotonin levels. And even if depression and anxiety sufferers indeed DO tend to suffer from low serotonin levels, this does NOT establish a causal relationship between low serotonin and depression/anxiety. Low serotonin may simply be a RESULT of suffering from anxiety disorder. Also, more than likely, serotonin is probably low only in specific parts of the brain (but normal or even above normal in other parts of the brain). All of this certainly explains why globally increasing serotonin levels with drugs like SSRIs typically does not give entirely satisfactory results. "



My replies :

In fact, the drugs like Prozac etc could only temporarily and artificially restore the chemical balance of the brains of the mentally-ill people by re-uptaking and maintaing the proper balance of dopamine and serotonin neurotransmitter chemicals of their brains. However, since such an artificial medical mechanism is all by way of "forced suppression" so as to artificially blocking any nerve and sensory impulses from getting sent and receive to and from the brains, and hence, artificially blocking the "neuron network traffics" the mental conditions of the related mentally-ill people would then suffer a greater relapse of their mental illnesses when the therapeutical effects of such "forced suppressions" of each dosage of the related medications just lapse completely, while the previously medication-forced- suppressed nerve and sensory impulses would just turn violent and out-of-control (when they are no longer artificially suppressed by medications anymore) and manifest in far worse uncontrollable and involuntary behavioural and personality changes in the related mentally-ill people. Hence, that's why in such cases the cures are worse than the diseases themselves.



So, that's why I have said that other non-medicational efforts such as what I have mentioned and explained earlier on in my previous posts are primarily important in genuinely and permanently restoring the sanities of the mentally-ill people bit by bit and step by step.


Remarks from the other person :

"As for antipsychotics and dopamine, once again, dopamine levels may be out of balance in people suffering from psychosis. But it is impossible to say whether this is the actual cause. And since, like antidepressants, antipsychotics generally do not produce entirely satisfactory results, I would suspect that there is probably MUCH more to psychosis than a simple chemical imbalance."



My replies :

As a matter of fact, everything has its shortcomings, flaws and defects. For example, in the case of people suffering from Tardive Dyskinesia, Dystonia and other movement disorders due to interruptions and disruptions to the synaptic activities of the neurotransmitter chemical dopamine, well, given that such fluidly and nearly totally transparent neurotransmitter chemical secreted by countless neurons and brain cells are hardly observable and distinguishable by any medical examinations such as MRI, CT-scannings etc whereby the people with Tardive Dyskinesia, Dystonia etc would obviously show their involuntary and uncontrollable movement disorders to the related doctors, nevertheless, no conclusive medical examinations, observations, diagnosis supported by any hard evidences can be given at the same time. So, that's why under such scenarios and phenomena, such movement disorders are labelled as "undiagnosed diseases".



Next, I suffer from Tardive Dyskinesia before and my efforts of seeking the mainstream treatments from the western medical science just turn out to be totally futile such as the scenarios and phenomena explained above. And the fact that my Tardive Dyskinesia movement disorders are totally cured once-and-for-all about 6 years ago through a totally needle-free acupuncture / acupressure technique, which has fully cured countless of people having the same problem as mine so far, and well, the flaw and defect of this acupuncture / acupressure technique is such that, regardless of the ongoing ample empirical evidences about its obviously evident and prompt efficacies, the mainstream western medical science still would not recognise the validity of it simply for the mere reason that the healing mechanisms of such a totally needle-free acupuncture / acupressure technique are not be able to be observed, explored and studied by them, regardless of its obviously evident, prompt and 100 % healing efficacies as supported by more and more countless empirical evidences.



In such a connection, what I wish to say is that for anything that we do not know or have not yet known, it doesn't mean that they are phoney, fallacious or non-existent.



All in all, under any circumstances, I firmly and reasonably believe that for any patients / people seeking treatments for any of their illnesses, especially the desperate ones, I reckon that they would want the best and most effective treatments for themselves under any circumstances and situations. Anyhow, for anyone seeking treatments for their illnesses, their sole and only purpose is to get their illnesses and disorders totally cured, and preferably, once and for all.


Further Details :

http://www.anxietyforum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6974&highlight=


Edited by ntuc (05 Oct 2010 03:05 AM)

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#727 - 08 Oct 2010 11:48 PM What A Patient Wants From Seeking Treatments ? [Re: ntuc]
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What A Patient Wants From Seeking Treatments ?



Included below is a conversation between me and the other third party about mental disorders & illnesses, the advantageous, disadvantageous of the medications for such illnesses and disorders as well as how such medications actually work in reality and what purposes they are supposed to serve along with several flaws, defects and demerits of the modern mainstream medical science and system. Next I hope that the information provided will be useful and helpful to the intended readers.



Remarks from the other person :

"Speaking of neurotransmitters, much is made by the medical community about their alleged central role in depression and anxiety. However, this is largely unproven."




My replies :

Well, it's totally undeniable that human bodies depend on the neurological mechanisms of neuron, brains, neuron networks, miscellaneous nervous systems, the many types of neurotransmitters chemical for all our bodily functionings which include cognitive and movement abilities etc. And that's the reason why the people with Parkinsonism, Dementia, Alzheimers etc whose brain cells and neurons have been substantially destroyed (and hence no neurotransmitter chemicals can be released / secreted out of them) could not think, act and behave properly at all.



Remarks from the other person :

"There is, for instance, no lab test that can be done to show that depression or anxiety sufferers do indeed suffer from low serotonin levels. And even if depression and anxiety sufferers indeed DO tend to suffer from low serotonin levels, this does NOT establish a causal relationship between low serotonin and depression/anxiety. Low serotonin may simply be a RESULT of suffering from anxiety disorder. Also, more than likely, serotonin is probably low only in specific parts of the brain (but normal or even above normal in other parts of the brain). All of this certainly explains why globally increasing serotonin levels with drugs like SSRIs typically does not give entirely satisfactory results. "



My replies :

In fact, the drugs like Prozac etc could only temporarily and artificially restore the chemical balance of the brains of the mentally-ill people by re-uptaking and maintaing the proper balance of dopamine and serotonin neurotransmitter chemicals of their brains. However, since such an artificial medical mechanism is all by way of "forced suppression" so as to artificially blocking any nerve and sensory impulses from getting sent and receive to and from the brains, and hence, artificially blocking the "neuron network traffics" the mental conditions of the related mentally-ill people would then suffer a greater relapse of their mental illnesses when the therapeutical effects of such "forced suppressions" of each dosage of the related medications just lapse completely, while the previously medication-forced- suppressed nerve and sensory impulses would just turn violent and out-of-control (when they are no longer artificially suppressed by medications anymore) and manifest in far worse uncontrollable and involuntary behavioural and personality changes in the related mentally-ill people. Hence, that's why in such cases, the cures are worse than the diseases themselves .



So, that's why I have said that other non-medicational efforts such as what I have mentioned and explained earlier on in my previous posts are primarily important in genuinely and permanently restoring the sanities of the mentally-ill people bit by bit and step by step.


Remarks from the other person :

"As for antipsychotics and dopamine, once again, dopamine levels may be out of balance in people suffering from psychosis. But it is impossible to say whether this is the actual cause. And since, like antidepressants, antipsychotics generally do not produce entirely satisfactory results, I would suspect that there is probably MUCH more to psychosis than a simple chemical imbalance."



My replies :

As a matter of fact, everything has its shortcomings, flaws and defects. For example, in the case of people suffering from Tardive Dyskinesia, Dystonia and other movement disorders due to interruptions and disruptions to the synaptic activities of the neurotransmitter chemical dopamine, well, given that such fluidly and nearly totally transparent neurotransmitter chemical secreted by countless neurons and brain cells are hardly observable and distinguishable by any medical examinations such as MRI, CT-scannings etc whereby the people with Tardive Dyskinesia, Dystonia etc would obviously show their involuntary and uncontrollable movement disorders to the related doctors, nevertheless, no conclusive medical examinations, observations, diagnosis supported by any hard evidences can be given at the same time. So, that's why under such scenarios and phenomena, such movement disorders are labelled as "undiagnosed diseases".



Next, I suffer from Tardive Dyskinesia (medication-induced rapid, involuntary, uncontrollable, purposeless Blepharospasm / chronic eye-blinking / eyelid twitching & Hemifacial Spasms (uncontrollable twisted mouth etc) before and my efforts of seeking the mainstream treatments from the western medical science just turn out to be totally futile such as the scenarios and phenomena explained above. And the fact that my Tardive Dyskinesia movement disorders are totally cured once-and-for-all about 6 years ago through a totally needle-free acupuncture / acupressure technique, which has fully cured countless of people having the same problem as mine so far, and well, the flaw and defect of this acupuncture / acupressure technique is such that, regardless of the ongoing ample empirical evidences about its obviously evident and prompt efficacies, the mainstream western medical science still would not recognise the validity of it simply for the mere reason that the healing mechanisms of such a totally needle-free acupuncture / acupressure technique are not be able to be observed, explored and studied by them, regardless of its obviously evident, prompt and 100 % healing efficacies as supported by more and more countless empirical evidences.



In such a connection, what I wish to say is that for anything that we do not know or have not yet known, it doesn't mean that they are phoney, fallacious or non-existent.



All in all, under any circumstances, I firmly and reasonably believe that for any patients / people seeking treatments for any of their illnesses, especially the desperate ones, I reckon that they would want the best and most effective treatments for themselves under any circumstances and situations. Anyhow, for anyone seeking treatments for their illnesses, their sole and only purpose is to get their illnesses and disorders totally cured, and preferably, once and for all.


Further Details :

http://www.anxietyforum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6974&highlight=



Related Information :


http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1631689#i (Various Possible Medical Causes of Unusual Eyelid Twitching / Eye Blinking - Brief Explanations)

http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1428915#i (Chronic Rapid (Non-brain-damage-induced)Eyelid-twitching / Eye-blinking - Brief Medical Explanations)

http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1428920#i (Follow Up : Tardive Dyskinesia (Chronic Rapid Eyelid-twitching /Eye-blinking Is One of The Common Symptoms)

http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1470781#i (Why Botox Didn't Work ?)

http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1233341#i (A New Version For The Totally, Self-administered, Totally Needle-free, Totally Free-Of-Charge, Painless, Harmless Acupuncture / Acupressure Cure For Non-stop Persistent Rapid Eyelid-twitching / Eye-blinking - Meant For Promptly Immediate, complete & Once-and-for-all treatments)

http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1386471#i(The Story Behind The Suggested Totally Self-administered, Totally Needle-free, Totally Free-of-charge, Painless, Harmless Acupuncture / Acupressure Technique For Abnormally Rapid Eyelid-twitching / Eye-blinking Described Above)

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#795 - 25 Feb 2011 03:05 AM Disastrous Side Effects of Certain Hazardous Medic [Re: ntuc]
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Disastrous Side Effects of Certain Hazardous Medications and Medical Care for Tender-aged Children / Kids & Senile and Fragile Old People - An Important Point To Take Note



Well, regarding the various medications for mental disorers, especially the longly-outdated first-generation ones such as the ones mentioned in the prior posts above (Please refer to page 1), actually one very obvious flaw / defect about the prior and existing drugs / medications approval systems and procedures before and nowadays is such that, for all / most of the drugs / medications, especially the ones with potentially and largely unknown disastrous side effects approved by such accredited medical professional bodies such as FDA etc, whilst in these cases, medications for mental disorders especially the serious psychosis disorders (in contrast to the mild neurosis disorders), the usability and viability of them in most cases, are officially established and endorsed virtually through their repeated testings and experimentations on the voluntarily willing / and in most cases, recruited paid and contract-bound candidates, or rather guinea pigs who are invariably all the fully grown adults, especially the ones with stronger physiques who have been regularly and frequently recruited for and exposed to such drugs / medications testings and experimentations from time to time, and hence naturally such candidates would have reasonably developed and possessed stronger-than-usual immune systems over time compared to other normal healthy people, as well as substantially greater tolerances to the adverse (neurological / neuromuscular / neuro-degenerative) side effects of such tested / experimented drugs and medications, especially after they have gone through so many drugs / medications testings and experimentations.



Hence, regardless of the official positive results produced, verified and announced through the drugs / medications testings and experimentations conducted in such a questionable way, given that there is such an explicit discrepancy in terms of the standards and yardsticks applied by such professional medical organisations in the process of approving such drugs / medications, especially the ones with serious side effects, the usability and viability of the related drugs and medications officially approved as such, are thus reasonably and very much open to questions particularly when they are being prescribed, dispensed, used and taken by the end users whose immune systems are not as great and strong as the drug / medications testings candidates or rather, guinea pigs as described above.



As such, reasonably, regardless of the very undeniable facts that constructive positive changes and improvements to such long-standing rigid practices and procedures which are fraught with many technical drawbacks and discrepancies (and hence, are medically unfavourable to the normal healthy end users) are practically, logistically and realistically unenforceable, infeasible, or rather, nearly impossible due to a variety of unfavourable factors and restrictive limitations that can hardly be overcome, I nevertheless would like to take this opportunity to inspire a greater awareness and emphasize that well-informed, careful and discreet precautions should reasonably be taken by the related end users of the related drugs / medications, especially in line with the topic above, for the sake of medical health cares and well-beings of the small tender-aged kids / children and the senile & fragile old people whose immune systems are either far more less developed or seriously deteriorating in the latter cases (compared to those guinea pigs as described above), particularly when it comes to taking any medications with any potentially disastrous side effects so as to prevent the eventual unwanted, undesirable, and quite often, unexpected manifestations of such disastrous side effects of the related drugs / medications.


Edited by ntuc (25 Feb 2011 03:09 AM)

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#982 - 24 Aug 2011 05:06 AM Needle-free Acupuncture / Acupressure Cure For Chr [Re: ntuc]
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Needle-free Acupuncture / Acupressure Cure For Chronic Blepharospasm / Eyelid Twitching / Eye Blinking Caused By Tardive Dyskinesia / Disastrous Side Effects of Antipsychotic Drugs ? / Brief Summary of The Related Posts Above




Well, basically, acupuncture is the traditional Chinese methodology of the insertion of very fine needles into specific points on the body to relieve various ailments.



Well, basic principles as stipulated above generally is one thing which, under most of the circumstances are hardly disputable. Nevertheless, there would always be an exception to these fundamental rules, especially the one which would turn out to be immeasurably and prodigiously beneficial to numerous needy persons.



Articles About Self-administered, Simple, Needle-free, Free-Of-Charge, Painless, Harmless, Speedy & Once-and-for-all Acupuncture / Acupressure Cure For Non-stop Persistent Tardive Dyskinesia / Medication-induced Rapid Eyelid-twitching / Eye-blinking / Blepharospasm :


http://www.acupuncture.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=308



Lastly, I sincerely hope that the related articles included in this post would turn out to be informatively and therapeutically useful to the numerous others.

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#1041 - 23 Sep 2011 08:40 PM Kindly Support These Charity and Humanitarian Caus [Re: ntuc]
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Kindly Support These Charity and Humanitarian Causes




Lastly, I sincerely hope that the related articles which are posted, especially the ones elaborating the needle-free acupuncture / acupressure cure for chronic Blepharospasm / abnormally serious rapid incessant eyelid twitching / eye blinking disorders along with essentially their underlying not-widely-known and yet veracious and unvarnised pathological / medical causes, that are told purely for charity purposes and on humanitarian grounds will continue to get widely promoted & recommended by more and more kind and benevolent others so that more and more people suffering from the related eye disorders will be able to deal with their conditions accordingly and effectively towards the goals of full recoveries and getting back their normal life and promising futures.




http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1233341 - A New Version For The Self-administered Needle-free Free-Of-Charge Acupuncture Cure For Non-stop Persistent Rapid Eyelid-twitching / Eye-blinking


http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1673263 - Acclaimed Efficacies of The Suggested Self-administered, Needle-free, Free-of-charge Acupuncture Method and Appealed Humanitarian Causes For The Numerous Poor And Needy Others


http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1729694#i - Another Recent Online Third-party Testimonial About The Acclaimed Efficacies of The Suggested Self-administered, Totally Needle-free, Totally Free-of-charge, Painless, Harmless, Simple Acupuncture / Acupressure Method & Appealed Humanitarian Causes For The Numerous Poor And Needy Others

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#1058 - 17 Oct 2011 02:10 AM Kindly Support These Charity & Humanitarian Causes [Re: ntuc]
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Kindly Support These Charity & Humanitarian Causes - Tardive Dyskinesia and Medical Care for Tender-aged Children and Kids



For your kind information, in terms of medication-induced chronic Blepharospasm / eye twitching / eye blinking disorders, the ones seeking helps and advices from me so far over these couple of years are mainly, mostly and in majority, all the grown adults who suffer from such chronic Blepharospasm / eye blinking / eye twitching ever since their teenage years, and the ones who are in their 20s - 60s. Whilst as a matter of fact, there are actually certain Tardive Dyskinesia-related medications such as metoclopramide (Reglan), prochlorperazine (Compazine) - being medications for gastrointestinal problems, promethazine (Phenergan) - being medications for cough and so on that are often prescribed to children nowadays which may also have disastrous and very serious nerve-damaging side effect of muscle deformity that would affect the rest of their lives. Besides, given the very fact that the immune system of small children / kids are far less developed compared to grown adults, such small children / kids are thus far more vulnerable and susceptible to the strong and powerful neurological / neuromuscular side effects of such potentially nerve-disrupting medications compared to the grown adults. Therefore, extreme and well-informed precautions and measures should be vigorously taken when it comes to safeguarding the medical cares, welfares and well-beings of the tender-aged and underage children / kids so as to conscientiously and effectively protect them from any unwanted and unexpected harms of any medications with harmful side effects.



Tardive Dyskinesia :


http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1428920#i



Further Details About The Medications Specified Above :


Metoclopramide :


http://www.drugs.com/metoclopramide.html



Reglan :


http://www.drugs.com/reglan.html



prochlorperazine :


http://www.drugs.com/mtm/prochlorperazine.html



Compazine :


http://www.drugs.com/mtm/compazine.html



Promethazine :


http://www.drugs.com/promethazine.html



Phenergan :


http://www.drugs.com/phenergan.html




Other In-depth details


http://www.al.com/forums/health/index.ssf?extlink?artid=2115

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#2026 - 14 Mar 2013 08:25 PM Re: My Experiences of Getting Totally Cured Once and F [Re: ntuc]
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Mental Health is more important than physical health, There is lot of treatments available for maintaining physical Health but refreshing our mind is the only remedy for mental health...
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#2067 - 01 Apr 2013 07:57 PM Humanities & Humanitarianism Vs Law of The Jungle [Re: ntuc]
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Moral Principles,Humanities & Humanitarianism Vs Law of The Jungle - What Says You ?


Included below is an excerpt of a conversation between me and the other person about the issues of human rights which are in theory, rightfully and naturally deserved by the mentally-ill people and the practical problems faced by these pitiful people who are mostly denied and deprived of such basic human rights either in histrionically subtle or brazenly overt ways by the other incompassionate, callous and unfeeling people who just apathetically, self-righteously and spontaneously treat them as the inferiorily underprivileged ones rightfully deserving only any sorts of unfair treatments from the rest. So, the main issue here is that :


"Do human values and moral principles mean anything at all to most of the people nowadays ?"




Remarks made by ther other person :


Mentally ill people are ignored and cast-aside (and mental issues in general are brushed under the carpet);



My Replies :


On the contrary, for the mentally-ill people, especially the ones who have difficulties to relate themselves to the others, they are thus unable to safeguard themselves against any purposeful malicious and malignant acts of others. In short, they are far more vulnerable and susceptible to the attacks, abuses, maltreatments of the others, especially those scoundrels who would simply treat them as easy targets / preys for bullyings. And for those scoundrels doing such hurtful things to the mentally-ill people, their viewpoint can actually be summarized as such " well, since such mentally-ill people are totally defenceless, what's the harm for me to abuse them or to do anything I like or I want with them for my personal enjoyments and amusements".


Next, that particular remark is actually very much a gross understatement.


For those, especially the ones dealing with the institutionalized mentally-ill in-patients, they will surely know that such scenarios of inhumane and cruel treatments to mentally-ill people are simply the harsh reality of the real-life for such so called " mental asylums". Next, as social workers providing free counselling assistances and emotional supports to these incarcerated / institutionalized mentally-ill people, we can assure you that there are a great variety of brutally vicious unkind treatments than what you or the others could really imagine.


Next, apart from such sinisterly deliberate subtle maltreatments involving the abuses of chemical injections which exist pervasively in most of the public psychiatric facilities, we as social workers are actually very much more concerned with the deliberate physical abuses, tortures, maltreatments, brutalities etc inflicted in the forms of bashings, punchings, beatings, whackings, clobberings, batterings, cudgellings, kickings, slappings, smackings and whatever forms of purposeful physical grievous bodily harms, wounds and injuries done against the mentally ill in-patients kept in the public psychiatric medical facilities.


Saddeningly, all these physical acts of brutalities are actually and mostly "practiced" merely for the sheer amusements of those salaried sadistic medical operatives and paramedics involved.


And such acts of atrocities are actually acquiesced, condoned and connived almost totally and automatically by the authorities and other law enforcers who are not bothered at all with the physical pains and sufferings of those mentally ill in-patients kept in those medical facilities.


Just how inhumane they are.


And in fact, on several occasions, I had secretly taken some real-time photos with my hidden cell phones of certain paramedics bashing up the mentally-defunct in-patients of certain psychiatric wards before and complained such incidences to their superiors. But that actually turned out to be a complete disappointment when those evidences were accepted and then obliterated by those persons-in-charge whilst then those incidences of physical abuses and all my complainings, well, they were then just getting written-off as "non-existent" matters as if they were having at-will selective amnesia. Well, what a serious social ill and what a hypocritical social structure system that promises equal rights for every human being. Just how pathetic and saddening it is.

Remarks made by ther other person :

I want to say that people find it easy to forget that others around them have emotions.



My Replies :


Well, I quite agree with that point. And I wish to remind you and the others that under every single normal circumstance, such acts of deliberate aggravated assaults, other purposeful abuses and maltreatments etc done to anyone would definitely give rise to serious criminal charges and actionable legal proceedings as well as eventually, jail sentences for the ones perpetrating them. Whilst saying such thing as " I / other people find it easy to forget that others around them have emotions" is simply not an excuse for such hurtful things to be inflicted on anyone, especially the mentally-ill people. And neither that will be deemed as a defence against such offences in any courts of laws.

Therefore, I would very much like to remind you all that it maybe quite simple and natural for anyone to forget that others around them have emotions, but laws and orders do exist in any societies and communities, and hence, to forget about these laws and orders so as to violate them and do anything one wants to hurt other people, the consequences will surely be grave and dire. And I wish to remind you all that in terms of anyone breaking the laws and getting prosecuted, they are presumed to know the laws in the very first place, and hence, any offenders saying that " I forget or I do not know about such laws etc" would not help them in any way at all.





Remarks made by ther other person :


"Behind everyone is a brain with emotions."




My Replies :


That's a matter of course. Well, in contrast to the normal mentally sound people, the mentally-ill people have very much fragile minds and weak emotions. And as such, if it is simply a norm, fully rightful, justified, warranted and natural for anyone to prey on these pitiful people as easy targets, then how should we define our societies ? The ones being run based on the law of the jungle ? And if that's simply the case, why should we bother at all with all those moral principles and human values which are exalted as the pillars of any societies and communities ?


In a nutshell, if moral principles and human values do worth or mean something to anyone, they should be emotionally conscionable enough to treat the mentally-ill people with compassions, patiences and kindnesses such as the merits and virtues advocated by all those moral principles and human values.



Further information for the conversation above :


http://www.psychforums.com/hope/topic50308.html

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#2068 - 01 Apr 2013 08:04 PM Humanity Vs Law of The Jungle - Classic Paintings [Re: ntuc]
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Moral Principles, Humanities & Humanitarianism Vs Law of The Jungle - Renowned Classic Paintings



Included below are some classic paintings advocating compassionate and humane treatments (in contrast to deliberate physical abuses, brutalities, maltreatments, tortures, cruelties, ridicules, derisions, disparagings, mockings, humiliations, and other forms of subtle purposeful malicious acts) for the mentally-ill people who are totally unable to defend and protect themselves at all :

"The engraving of the eighth print of William Hogarth's A Rake's Progress depicting Inmates at Bedlam Asylum :

The Hospital of Saint Mary of Bethlehem, a London mental hospital commonly known as Bedlam, sold admission tickets to the public in the 18th century, becoming a popular tourist attraction. In this engraving by English artist William Hogarth, part of his series A Rake’s Progress (1735), two women (seen in the background) tour the hospital, watching the mentally ill patients for their amusement. The hospital became notorious for its miserable conditions and cruel treatment of patients."

Bedlam

"Dr. Philippe Pinel at the Salpętričre, 1795 by Robert Fleury. Pinel ordering the removal of chains from patients at the Paris Asylum for insane women

French physician Philippe Pinel supervises the unchaining of mentally ill patients in 1794 at La Salpętričre, a large hospital in Paris. Pinel believed in treating mentally ill people with compassion and patience, rather than with cruelty and violence. This painting, Pinel Frees the Insane from Their Chains, was completed by French artist Tony Robert-Fleury in 1876."

Pinel


Edited by ntuc (01 Apr 2013 08:05 PM)

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#2071 - 02 Apr 2013 09:58 PM Pseudoscience About Psychiatric Reasoning & Psycho [Re: ntuc]
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Pseudoscience About Psychiatric Reasoning & Biased Psychological Concepts - The Unquestioned License Fully Justifying Any Deliberate Maltreatment, Brutalities & Physical Violence Against The Cognitively Impaired Ones ?


In regard to the Title above, please refer to the excerpts as follows :


Quote:
"In the meantime, saddeningly and pathetically, all these generally biased & unknowingly distorted justifications and the so-called "rule-of-the-thumb valid reasoning" would always tend to end up as the tacitly approved "license" for all these deliberate & unnecessary cruelties, brutalities, abuses and all sorts of maltreatment to be inflicted gratuitously onto the mentally-ill people who are unable to defend themselves at all, and well, in such sinister ways that are totally & implicitly acquiesced & condoned without any questions getting asked at all. whilst in certain cases, under the "conceptual framework" of these seemingly plausible and yet generally misleading "justifications", such unnecessary and gratuitous cruelties and violence are even welcomed and exalted as "effective and fully acceptable, rationally reasonable means, or rather the so-called best course of actions / "don't-need -to- be-questioned legitimate violence" against all the mentally-ills". And well, that is certainly, undisputedly & undeniably something very much saddening on both humanity and humanitarian grounds."



Quote:

As such, that's definitely a key point to be seriously pondered over here in that, the seemingly plausible and yet totally misleading rhetorical reasoning and "justifications" based solely on nothing but pseudoscience alone rather than individually respective and specific hard facts and details under different scenarios, cases & circumstances actually invariably and indiscriminately & irreversibly seal the ill & pitiful fates of all the mentally-ills and the cognitively incapacitated, declining and disabled people so as to indiscriminately predetermine their misfortunes under most of the circumstances so as to indiscriminately and "legally" put them at the mercy of the "personnel" handling their daily lives, particularly the ones with sadistic tendencies who tend and get to freely brutalize these pitiful group of people with full and unquestioned impunity solely for their personal sadistic, perverse and deviant pleasures, amusements and enjoyments ?



Quote:

Whilst one of the most explicit like-examples would be the old, senile and fragile old folks getting unnecessarily and physically abused, maltreated and brutalized in most of the nursery homes, due solely to their defenselessness caused by their declining cognitive abilities.



for further information,please refer to :


http://scienceforums.com/topic/17385-ant...ts/page__st__15

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#2082 - 06 Apr 2013 04:29 AM Follow-up : Extrapyramidal Symptoms - EPS [Re: ntuc]
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Follow-up : Extrapyramidal Symptoms - EPS



In the meantime, in regard of the antipsychotics / neuroleptics as shown through the weblink above, it’s very much worthy to take a special note that such dopamine antagonists medications actually, invariably and inevitably all carry such seriously irreversible cognitively-damaging neurological and neuro-degenerative side effects of Extrapyramidal symptoms (EPS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extrapyramidal_symptoms) that include such disastrously while irreversibly serious, and yet cognitive-impairing and miscellaneous movements disorders as akinesia , Tardive dyskinesia , akathisia , acute dystonic reactions, neuroleptic malignant syndrome (NMS), and in the worst case scenario, the seriously incurable neuro-degenerative disorder of pseudoparkinsonism.


And these neurological & neuro-degenerative disorders would usually manifest disastrously and yet irreversibly onto the ones who either overly rely upon them to the point of sheer abuses or have simply taken such medications over the very long-term.


Whilst in connection to the remarks made in the previous post, it is again very much worthy to take note that in the case of certain people who, as a matter of fact, do not require the unnecessary intakes of such neurologically and neuro-degenerative dopamine antagonists medications at all, well, they would nevertheless seem to always get to helplessly suffer all these misfortunes of getting all the serious disorders of Extrapyramidal symptoms as mentioned above that simply get to befall upon them particularly when they are peremptorily , indiscriminately & forcibly drugged from time to time by the related “medical personnel” such as the ones mentioned in the previous post who would simply keep on “ feeding” them with such dopamine antagonists medications indiscriminately and totally thoughtlessly without considering the necessities of doing so at all, and in all cases & scenarios, simply do not even have the slightest knowledge about the potentially disastrous and all the irreversibly neurological & neuro-degenerative side effects carried by these dopamine antagonists medications as mentioned above.


In short, invariably the welfares, health cares, well-beings of these cognitively impaired ones would simply mean nothing at all to these “medical personnel’ almost in all cases.


Edited by ntuc (06 Apr 2013 08:55 AM)

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#2087 - 06 Apr 2013 09:54 PM Re: Follow-up : Extrapyramidal Symptoms - EPS [Re: ntuc]
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Follow-up :


In regard to the related topic above, please consider the excerpts of the conversation below :



Points made by the other Person :


"I see your point. Giving up any ground on the medication is useful issue is definitely a floodgate to abuses of people with diseases by the medical community who really have no clue what schizophrenia is or what to do about it. Before it was turning them into a zombie by cutting out part of their brain, now it is giving them drugs that do the same thing.

But schizophrenics, especially in their first episode, can be dangerous. If you think people are coming to kill you, or perhaps torture you, what would you do? Would you attack them? If so then you might harm innocent bystanders. If you adopt a policy of no collateral damage, having received no concrete proof that anyone around you is actually part of the "conspiracy", you might just off yourself to avoid being tortured. But what if you choose to do so in a spectacular manner? Drive your car off a cliff or blow yourself up? What if you ACCIDENTALLY take someone with you? Even if not, medication could have saved you to live another day.

I am just saying, schizophrenia can create some rather dire circumstances where a medication that dulls your mind for a while is definitely the lesser of the two evils."



My Replies :


I see your points. Well, just as what I have mentioned earlier on in my previous post, the related issue should be determined based on the different individually respective and specific hard facts and details under different scenarios, cases & circumstances for different individuals particularly based on their individual behaviors and most importantly, such actual facts as to whether what they have done might be considered to be physically violent & dangerous to they themselves or anyone else at all.


In short, these so-called "plausible reasoning" of yours simply shouldn't be assumed and presumed to be applied or applicable directly, straightaway, indiscriminately and peremptorily all across and against any cognitively impaired individuals without even a second thought or other rational and reasonable considerations.


Anyway, objectively speaking, whilst with all due respects and I definitely mean no offense that, these rather obviously over-exaggerated and seemingly highly prejudiced remarks that you have made above would simply give anyone reading them a very distorted and very much biased impression that it seems that all the cognitively impaired people are alike, seem to simply turn out to be as "monsters" or politely speaking, "unwanted eyesores" to you in your very own eyes maybe simply at your very first sight. Whilst judging from the related fully derogatory and yet hypothetically intimidating personal highly questionable comments of yours such as "If you think people are coming to kill you, or perhaps torture you, what would you do? Would you attack them?" etc that you have made above, well, you are in fact just simply giving anyone a fully biased and over-exaggerated impression or rather a spontaneously direct & inductive reasoning based on what you have written that "good riddance to all of the cognitively impaired people on sight" would be your personally-defined "best solutions", to settle the "related problem" in your "personal context".


Whilst generally and reasonably, of course not everyone, especially the rational and reasonable ones would share exactly the same overly exaggerated viewpoints and mindsets of yours.


So, is it actually your personal bigotry that is in play ? Whilst if that's simply the case, I would suggest you to make your posts and deliver your points in a more sensible and reasonable way next time. And I mean no offense at all by saying that.


By the way, about the issues of deliberate abuses that you have mentioned above, and well, just think about one very common example, regarding all the old, fragile, senile and cognitively impaired old folks living in the nursing homes, and well, surely such ugly and yet fully unaccounted issue is obviously all about the "law of the jungle" which is predominantly in play such as what I have explained and elaborated in my previous posts above.


Points made by the other Person :


"You are right, those thoughts are not representative of most schizophrenics (they were based on personal experience with an AIP person rather than an actual schizophrenic), and single cases like that are used as justification to drug lots of people who aren't really dangerous."


My replies :



I quite agree with you to a certain extent. Nevertheless, one should always bear in mind that such Dopamine antagonist medications at the very same time also carry such undesirable and yet almost fully unavoidable disastrous side effects of Extrapyramidal symptoms (EPS - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extrapyramidal_symptoms ) that include such serious neurological and neuro-degenerative disorders like akathisia, tardive dyskinesia, neuroleptic malignant syndrome, dystonia, akinesia and in the worst case scenario, parkinsonism, which might manifest disastrously and yet irreversibly onto anyone taking them particularly when these drugs are overly relied upon to the point of sheer abuse or maybe 'getting forced to be taken unnecessarily over the long-term" such as what you have mentioned as "and single cases like that are used as justification to drug lots of people who aren't really dangerous.", and well, obviously that's simply how the "law of the jungle" really works in reality, and the related question that arises is such that such scenario and the related issues such as the ones explained and elaborated in my prior posts above can really be fully tolerated, acquiesced and condoned at all on both humanity and humanitarian grounds ? Whilst the "law of the jungle" actually prevails overwhelmingly over any moral principles, underlying basic concepts of human conscience, humanity and humanitarianism nowdays ? So, what says you ? as quoted from : http://scienceforums.com/topic/17385-ant...ts/page__st__30


By the way, if one were to take & make a closer observation about the related post made earlier on above, one would just simply find out and simply wonder as to the actual reason why that, almost most of the times, clicking onto the particular weblink : http://scienceforums.com/topic/17385-ant...ts/page__st__15 or most / any of the related weblinks, particularly the one named “Science Forums - Science for everyone”
available on any of the internet search engines to access the specific Hypography Science Forums would nevertheless simply get one falsely and wrongly re-routed to the totally unrelated utility webpage of http://url4short.info/efab30d2 .


So, is it actually a subtly insidious tactic to hide something that is considered unfavourable, probably all the related ugly and totally unaccounted truths and incidents, from the compassionate & warm-hearted ones?


Edited by ntuc (06 Apr 2013 10:01 PM)

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#2095 - 14 Apr 2013 07:02 AM Side Effects of Neurological & Neurodegenerative D [Re: ntuc]
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Side Effects of Neurological & Neurodegenerative Disorders of Extrapyramidal Symptoms (EPS) Caused By Antipsychotics / Neuroleptics – Full Details



Well as mentioned in my previous post about such dopamine antagonists medications of antipsychotics & neuroleptics which invariably and inevitably all carry such seriously irreversible cognitively-damaging neurological and neurodegenerative side effects of Extrapyramidal symptoms (EPS) that include such disastrously while irreversibly serious, and yet cognitive-impairing and miscellaneous movements disorders as akinesia , Tardive dyskinesia , akathisia , acute dystonic reactions, neuroleptic malignant syndrome (NMS) , and in the worst case scenario, the seriously incurable neuro-degenerative disorder of pseudoparkinsonism such as the ones fully detailed through the weblinks below :


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine_antagonist (Dopamine antagonist)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extrapyramidal_symptoms (Extrapyramidal Symptoms)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akathisia (Akathisia)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardive_dyskinesia (Tardive Dyskinesia)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroleptic_malignant_syndrome (Neuroleptic Malignant Syndrome)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dystonia (Dystonia)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akinesia (Akinesia)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoparkinsonism (Parkinsonism)


then such dopamine antagonist medications, given their irreversibly disastrous EPS side effects, hence should not be taken totally thoughtlessly unaware, especially in terms of their dosages, durations of treatments, etc, or maybe even unnecessarily in certain cases over the long-term without any discretionary precautions being taken at all against the potential manifestations of any of their disastrous neurological / neurodegenerative side effects as mentioned above.


And in all cases, such dopamine antagonist medications simply should not be overly relied upon to the point of sheer abuses . In short, it is simply undisputed that antipsychotics / neuroleptics alone are simply not the perfect or the only one & single solution to any cognitive disorders.


Whilst the ones attending to and treating these cognitively impaired persons, at least by their natural humanely moral responsibilities & medically ethical obligations should all be fully aware of such issue so as to do whatever they can to safeguard them against all these seriously irreversible cognitively-damaging neurological and neurodegenerative side effects of Extrapyramidal symptoms (EPS) at least on both humanity & humanitarian grounds.


Afterall, naturally and reasonably the tasks & duties of these medical personnel would be, such as naturally & reasonably expected by anyone, to do whatever they can on a well-informed and fully skillful & thoughtful basis to make sure that the medical conditions of these people they treat and attend to get better and better gradually from time to time and simply not from bad to worse.


Next, whilst such antipsychotics / neuroleptics remain essential in treating the related cognitively impaired ones, reasonably anyone would believe that as long as well-informed knowledge about both the upsides and downsides of these medications are known, whereby they are being used accordingly & solely for curative and therapeutic purposes with all the necessary precautions taken against the potential manifestations of their unwanted side effects at the same time, then the expected advantages derived from these medications would most probably outweigh their unexpected and undesirable disadvantages.



Edited by ntuc (14 Apr 2013 07:04 AM)

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#2118 - 20 Apr 2013 03:19 AM Dire Effects of Extrapyramidal Symptoms (EPS) [Re: ntuc]
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Follow-up : Dire Effects of Medication-caused Extrapyramidal Symptoms (EPS)


Quote:
As such given the serious neurological and neuro-degenerative complications inherent in these antipsychotics / neuroleptics (whilst one of their invariably inevitable medication effects would be such as the one mentioned by Kriminal99, saying “Before it was turning them into a zombie by cutting out part of their brain, now it is giving them drugs that do the same thing”, and so, should careful discretions & considerations be exercised at all in terms of determining the intakes of such powerful mind-altering drugs which are of dopamine antagonist nature especially when it comes to deciding the issues of dosages, how long they should be taken before their dosages can be progressively reduced & finally stopped ,and such question as to whether the intakes of such medications are necessary at all based on respectively individual different cases & scenarios ?



In regard to the quotation above, please refer to the excerpts below:


Akathisia


Akathisia is closely related to dyskinesia. Akathisia is an extreme form of internal or external restlessness. It may be a complete inability to sit still, with an undeniable urge to be moving constantly. Or it may be an entirely inner feeling of jitteriness or shakiness. Akathisia can be exhausting and debilitating. In fact, severe akathisia may put an individual at risk for suicide, simply because it can be so unbearable.
Tardive akathisia refers to akathisia that occurs after long-term medication use, and may become permanent.

Dystonia


Dystonia is a muscle tension disorder involving very strong muscle contractions. These uncontrollable muscle contractions can cause unusual twisting of parts of the body, especially the neck. The condition can be extremely painful and can affect any part of the body, including the eyes. If it appears after several years of medication use, it is called "tardive dystonia," and may become permanent.


Other Extrapyramidal Symptoms
There are many more kinds of extrapyramidal symptoms. Sometimes, they resemble Parkinson's disease, with shuffling-type walking and unusual hand or finger movements. This is called "parkinsonism." Sometimes, the symptoms affect a person's ability to speak or may cause vocal tics (uncontrollable speech or other vocal sounds).


Dealing With Extrapyramidal Symptoms
It is important to know that there is help for extrapyramidal symptoms. Symptoms that appear early in treatment can be especially easy to deal with. Simply switching medications or adding a medication such as benztropine (Cogentin®) can be helpful. Since extrapyramidal symptoms can be distressing, it is important to let your healthcare provider know right away if you experience any of them.
Tardive symptoms (which appear late in treatment) may be relieved by stopping the antipsychotic medication or by adding medications to control the symptoms, although sometimes they become permanent. The best way to prevent them from becoming permanent is to let your healthcare provider know right away if you develop them.

Which are quoted from: http://schizophrenia.emedtv.com/extrapyramidal-symptoms/extrapyramidal-symptoms-p2.html



&


Treatment of Extrapyramidal symptoms:
•The treatment for extrapyramidal symptoms include lowering the dosage of the causative agent consumed by the person and also by using an alternative medication.
as quoted from : http://www.symptomwiki.com/extrapyramidal-symptoms





Quote:
Whilst as mentioned by Kriminal99 who said that “and single cases like that are used as justification to drug lots of people who aren't really dangerous.", and as such, getting all these lots of "people who aren't really dangerous" forcibly drugged by the related “medical personnel" totally peremptorily, indiscriminately and totally thoughtlessly without even considering the necessities of doing so at all, and in all cases & scenarios, simply do not even have the slightest knowledge about the potentially disastrous and all the irreversibly neurological & neuro-degenerative side effects carried by these dopamine antagonists medications as mentioned above, which nevertheless is simply the very prevailingly unquestioned trend nowadays, well, is such a "practice" really can be deemed as something that is appropriate, rational and reasonable & morally right thing to do ? So, what says you ?



Next, about the other quotation above, please refer to the second excerpts as shown below:


Extrapyramidal symptoms (EPSs), such as akathisia, dystonia, psuedoparkinsonism, and dyskinesia, are drug-induced side effects that can be problematic for persons who receive antipsychotic medications (APMs) or other dopamine-blocking agents. The clinical manifestations include a number of atypical involuntary muscle contractions that influence gait, movement, and posture. The symptoms can develop acutely, be delayed, or overlap making diagnosing a challenge. Preventive interventions include selective prescribing of APMs, close monitoring of uncharacteristic movements through the use of screening instruments, prompt management of symptoms, and thorough client education. Nurse practitioners who do not practice in psychiatric mental health nursing on a regular basis or who infrequently prescribe psychotropic medications must be cautious with these potential life-threatening symptoms.

which is in turn quoted from :

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/561665



Full Details :


http://scienceforums.com/topic/17385-ant...ts/page__st__30


Edited by ntuc (20 Apr 2013 03:21 AM)

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#2132 - 25 Apr 2013 09:46 PM Medication-caused Extrapyramidal Symptoms (EPS) [Re: ntuc]
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Quote:
Akathisia


Akathisia is closely related to dyskinesia. Akathisia is an extreme form of internal or external restlessness. It may be a complete inability to sit still, with an undeniable urge to be moving constantly. Or it may be an entirely inner feeling of jitteriness or shakiness. Akathisia can be exhausting and debilitating. In fact, severe akathisia may put an individual at risk for suicide, simply because it can be so unbearable.
Tardive akathisia refers to akathisia that occurs after long-term medication use, and may become permanent.


Dystonia


Dystonia is a muscle tension disorder involving very strong muscle contractions. These uncontrollable muscle contractions can cause unusual twisting of parts of the body, especially the neck. The condition can be extremely painful and can affect any part of the body, including the eyes. If it appears after several years of medication use, it is called "tardive dystonia," and may become permanent.



Quote:
Extrapyramidal symptoms (EPSs), such as akathisia, dystonia, psuedoparkinsonism, and dyskinesia, are drug-induced side effects that can be problematic for persons who receive antipsychotic medications (APMs) or other dopamine-blocking agents. The clinical manifestations include a number of atypical involuntary muscle contractions that influence gait, movement, and posture. The symptoms can develop acutely, be delayed, or overlap making diagnosing a challenge. Preventive interventions include selective prescribing of APMs, close monitoring of uncharacteristic movements through the use of screening instruments, prompt management of symptoms, and thorough client education. Nurse practitioners who do not practice in psychiatric mental health nursing on a regular basis or who infrequently prescribe psychotropic medications must be cautious with these potential life-threatening symptoms.

which is in turn quoted from : http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/561665



Follow-up: Medicational Antipsychotics / neuroleptics-caused Extrapyramidal Symptoms (EPS)


In regard to the quotations above : Please refer to the Excerpts below :

Neuroleptic-Induced Extrapyramidal Symptoms


This page was last updated on April 14, 2012

•
Acute Dystonia

•
Parkinsonism

•
Akathisia

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Tardive Dyskinesia

•
Neuroleptic Malignant Syndrome





Acute Dystonia
•"Long-lasting contraction or spasm of musculature develops secondary to the use of antipsychotic medication.
•Acute dystonia typically subsides spontaneously within hours after onset.



Common Dystonias



•Torticollis (lateral neck rotation)
•Retrocollis (neck extension)
•Limb torsion
•Forced jaw closing (trismus) or opening
•Tongue protrusion
•Opisthotonus (extension of head, neck, and paraspinal muscles in an arch)
•Oculogyric crisis (forceful eye deviation
)……as quoted from: http://nursingplanet.com/psychopharmacology/extrapyramidal_symptoms.html -

Psychopharmacology Reviews



&

The extrapyramidal motor system is a neural network located in the brain that is involved in the coordination of movement. Extrapyramidal symptoms therefore are symptoms that manifest themselves in various movement disorders.
Extrapyramidal symptoms, often known as EPS is a neurological side effect of antipsychotic medication, also known as major tranquilizers. Antipsychotics are used to control psychoses such as schizophrenia but can also be used to treat behavioral disturbances associated with Alzheimer's disease.
Antipsychotic medications include chlorpromazine (Thorazine), thioridazine (Melleril) and haloperidol (Haldol).
Extrapyramidal symptoms can begin within a few hours, days or weeks or even years after commencing treatment with an antipsychotic medication.
Extrapyramidal symptoms are most common with the older conventional antipsychotics medications such as chlorpromazine (Thorazine), thioridazine (Melleril), haloperidol (Haldol). Symptoms of Extrapyramidal side effects
Common signs and symptoms include
• involuntary movements
• Tremors and rigidity
• Body restlessness
• Muscle contractions
• Mask like face
• Involuntary movement of the eye called oculogyric crisis.
• Drooling
• Shuffling gait
• Increased heart rate
• Delirium
Symptoms can be very distressing and frightening.
as quoted from : http://alzheimers.about.com/od/psychiatricmedications/a/extrapyramidal.htm (Extrapyramidal symptoms (EPS) and Alzheimer's disease)

Other Related Information:


http://www.psychvisit.com/conditions/sch...E.html#dystonia

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-the-different-extrapyramidal-symptoms.htm

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#2145 - 04 May 2013 08:10 PM Antipsychotics & Neuroleptics - Striking a Fine Ba [Re: ntuc]
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Antipsychotics & Neuroleptics - Striking a Fine Balance for Such Double-edge Swords


Well, about schizophrenia disorders which are mostly treated with antipsychotics / neuroleptics medications, please consider the excerpts below:



{“Positive Schizophrenia Symptoms Positive symptoms of the disorder are easy-to-spot behaviors not seen in healthy people and usually involve a loss of contact with reality.


These positive symptoms can include:


• Hallucinations
• Delusions
• Thought disorder
• Disorders of movement.”}


as quoted from :

http://schizophrenia.emedtv.com/schizophrenia/symptoms-of-schizophrenia.html


Next, in regard of the antipsychotics and neuroleptics meant for treatments of schizophrenia , please refer to the excerpts as follows:



{“ Extrapyramidal Symptoms People taking antipsychotic drugs are at risk of developing certain side effects known as extrapyramidal symptoms . These symptoms can include things such as repetitive, involuntary muscle movements (such as lip smacking) or an undeniable urge to be moving constantly . Extrapyramidal symptoms are usually divided into different categories. Dyskinesias are movement disorders, while dystonias are muscle tension disorders . "Tardive" symptoms are those that appear during long-term treatment (often after several years). Unlike earlier symptoms, tardive symptoms are more likely to be permanent even after the medication is stopped. Dyskinesias are movement disorders and can include any of a number of repetitive, involuntary, and purposeless body or facial movements . They can include:


• Tongue movements, such as "tongue thrusts" or "fly-catching" movements
• Lip smacking
• Finger movements
• Eye blinking
• Movements of the arms or legs.


An individual may or may not be aware of these movements. These movements are usually quite recognizable. Tardive dyskinesia is a dyskinesia that occurs after long-term treatment with an antipsychotic medication. Sometimes, this condition may become permanent.


Akathisia is closely related to dyskinesia. Akathisia is an extreme form of internal or external restlessness. It may be a complete inability to sit still, with an undeniable urge to be moving constantly. Or it may be an entirely inner feeling of jitteriness or shakiness. Akathisia can be exhausting and debilitating. In fact, severe akathisia may put an individual at risk for suicide, simply because it can be so unbearable .


Tardive akathisia refers to akathisia that occurs after long-term medication use, and may become permanent. Dystonia is a muscle tension disorder involving very strong muscle contractions. These uncontrollable muscle contractions can cause unusual twisting of parts of the body, especially the neck. The condition can be extremely painful and can affect any part of the body, including the eyes. If it appears after several years of medication use, it is called "tardive dystonia," and may become permanent . Other Extrapyramidal Symptoms There are many more kinds of extrapyramidal symptoms. Sometimes, they resemble Parkinson’s disease, with shuffling-type walking and unusual hand or finger movements . This is called "parkinsonism." Sometimes, the symptoms affect a person's ability to speak or may cause vocal tics (uncontrollable speech or other vocal sounds )”.}
as quoted from:


http://schizophrenia.emedtv.com/extrapyramidal-symptoms/extrapyramidal-symptoms.html


Next, it’s thus very obvious that the antipsychotics / neuroleptics medications, well, although they remain unquestionably essential in treating Schizophrenia, but nevertheless, the manifestations of their inherent neurological & neurodegenerative side effects as pointed out above, are however, overwhelmingly & potentially and undeniably far dire, if not, deadly than the Schizophrenia disorders itself.


And in all cases, for miscellaneous precautionary purposes, such dopamine antagonist medications (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine_antagonist ) of antipsychotics / neuroleptics simply should not be overly relied or fed upon to the point of sheer abuses. In short, it is simply undisputed that antipsychotics / neuroleptics alone are simply not the perfect or the only one & single solution to any cognitive disorders.


Whilst as far as antipsychotics / neuroleptics medications are concerned, well, given the very undisputed fact that since most of them are of dopamine antagonist nature ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine_antagonist ) with a variety of simply inevitable serious side effects ( http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=2055352#i ), there thus have been in fact a great variety of other far better medications with greater curative effects and far lesser harmful side effects getting invented from time to time nowadays by the modern medical science in order to overcome this problem.


Thus, please refer to: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1530443 /

http://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/first-generation-antipsychotics-for-treating-schizophrenia -

Additional Information About Modern And Outdated Neurological-related Medications


As such, their treatments would definitely involve psychotherapies to complement the usages of such medications for holistic healings .


Next, since different types of non-medication psychotherapy treatments undeniably applies to different individuals needing psychiatric treatments given their respectively different temperaments, characters, traits, personalities etc. . that simply vary from one another, then these duly certified professionals thus would need to be tactful and attentive to all the emotional & psychological needs and patterns of the ones they treat and attend to so as to effectively deliver genuinely & progressively better and better reliefs, cures and healings to these people.


Whilst generally & objectively, surely under whatsoever circumstances, anyone would certainly & positively expect any fully certified and licensed medical practitioners to simply ensure that the medical conditions of the ones or anyone they treat and attend to just get better and better from time to time rather than from bad to worse.


Next, objectively and reasonably , surely anyone would never expect and simply could never accept that for the related persons seeking treatments and getting treated, well, after getting treated and attended to by all the related fully certified & licensed professionals, well, rather than getting their original medical conditions gradually & progressively mitigated and improved better and better in a fully genuine way from time to time, as reasonably expected by anyone, well, just fully & on the contrary or the other way round, have their medical conditions ending up to be far worse off than the ones before getting treated, for example, by developing & contracting all these extra far worse neurological and neurodegenerative disorders of Extrapyramidal Symptoms, Dystonia, Neuroleptic Malignant Syndrome, Parkinsonism, Alzheimer's disease etc. as explained & elaborated through the points above.



Edited by ntuc (05 May 2013 10:09 AM)

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#2159 - 08 May 2013 09:30 PM Fees-seeking Psychiatrist & Their Fees-paying Pati [Re: ntuc]
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Fees-seeking Psychiatrist & Their Fees-paying Patients – Everyone Has All the Undisputed Rights & Responsibilities On Any Grounds to Safeguard the Best Possible Interests of Their Personal Heath Cares & Well-beings






Generally and objectively, the psychiatric patients invariably all would have their individual needs for psychiatric treatments in the first place for a variety of related reasons such as stress etc., and thus, that just lead them to seeking professional psychiatric treatments, or else, such individuals wouldn’t have been seen or deemed as psychiatric patients at all if such a need for professional psychiatric treatments obviously, generally and objectively simply do not arise or exist at all.


Next, since getting & seeking psychiatric treatments invariably involves paying medical fees, then the medical-fees-paying psychiatric patients seeking psychiatric treatments, are reasonably & naturally entitled to the best possible desired & expected treatments & outcomes from the related duly licensed & certified psychiatric treatments whilst the duly licensed & certified psychiatrists themselves at the same time also by their very occupational professional ethics & personal medical consciences, are also obligated, especially given that they are paid, to ensure that the conditions of the ones they treat and attend to just get better and better from time to time rather than from bad to worse, then of course the related medical-fees-paying psychiatric patients thus have all the rights either on medical-fees-paying ground or simply for the sake of personal health cares and well-beings, to determine or to switch to other much better duly licensed & certified psychiatrists that are able to serve them better so as to be able to deliver much better curative & therapeutic outcomes to these patients that in turn at least meet their curative & therapeutic needs and purposes in line with the medical fees they pay.


Whilst as far as psychiatric medications are concerned, well, given the very undisputed fact that since most of them are of dopamine antagonist nature ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine_antagonist ) with a variety of simply inevitable serious side effects ( http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=2055352#i ), there thus have been in fact a great variety of other far better medications with greater curative effects and far lesser harmful side effects getting invented from time to time nowadays by the modern medical science in order to overcome this problem. Thus, please refer to: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1530443
- Additional Information About Modern And Outdated Neurological-related Medications


And as such, in the case whereby any duly licensed & certified psychiatrists, maybe for personal self-serving profit-making reasons just simply insist to dispense totally outdated psychiatric medications which are far cheaper and “cost-effective” but nevertheless inherent with all the dangerous side effects ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extrapyramidal_symptoms )compared to the later or latest ones to their medical-fees-paying psychiatric patients seeking psychiatric treatments, in a way that totally disregards the health cares, medical well-beings & welfares of their medical-fees-paying patients, then of course the related medical-fees-paying patients, thus have all the rights to refuse to get treated in such a perilous way, so as maybe to switch to other duly licensed & certified psychiatrists who are able and are conscientious enough to take good care them, and in this case in terms of medication usage.


In short, the medical-fees-paying psychiatric patients seeking psychiatric treatments naturally & reasonably do have all the rights to refuse and reject any types of psychiatric medicine usage especially when the intakes of the specific medicines are obviously, potentially or simply proven to be perilous to their health conditions such as one of the many examples mentioned above.


Next, in terms of treatment methods, well, since psychiatric treatments undisputedly involved psychotherapy as well apart from medications alone, whilst different types of non-medication psychotherapy treatment undeniably applies to different fees-paying individuals seeking professional psychiatric treatments given their respectively different temperaments, characters, traits, personalities etc. that simply vary from one another, then of course the medical-fees-paying psychiatric patients seeking professional psychiatric treatments certainly do have all the rights to choose and to switch to other fees-receiving duly licensed & certified psychiatrists who are able to deliver much better, in this case, professional medication-and-psychotherapy treatment methods and cures that best suit , neatly-tailored to the specific curative and therapeutic needs of these fees-paying psychiatric patients simply for the sake of the respectively & individually different needs of their healthcare, medical welfare and well-beings based on the medical fees they pay.


And it is especially true when the related treatment methods administered by the fees-receiving duly licensed & certified psychiatrists simply could not work out anything satisfactory or positive at all to the fees-paying psychiatric patients.


All in all, it’s all about the breadth of the medical expertise, prowess, ingenuity, skillfulness, resourcefulness and medical consciences, ethical & all other professional issues, or in short, how useful & conscientious these fees-receiving duly licensed & certified psychiatrists really are in practically treating and genuinely & progressively improving the psychiatric conditions of the fees-paying psychiatric patients seeking psychiatric treatments from them that would eventually matter afterall.

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#2168 - Yesterday at 05:21 AM Duly Licensed & Certified Professional Psychiatris [Re: ntuc]
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Duly Licensed & Certified Professional Psychiatrists & Their Compulsory Medical Professionalism of Modern-day 21St Century




Well, for the professional psychiatrists seeking fees from their patients for their services, well, rather than getting their original medical conditions improved as expected, but just simply on the other way round, turning their medical conditions progressively from bad to worse, then naturally these fees-paying patients simply have all the undisputed rights to take whatsoever remedial actions anytime or immediately to seek damages & compensations from these fully licensed & certified medical professionals, and in the worst case scenario, just have their medical practicing licenses getting fully revoked on the fully valid grounds of gross negligence, miscellaneous breaches of professional conducts etc. by their respective professional medical bodies and associations which certify these licensed professionals in the first place.


Next, please consider the quotation below about the other totally different scenario which is quoted from the other third-party under other different topic of other forum:


Quote:
i remember been on the employment training i moved this guys bag so they could put a video there he starts threatening me after they showed the video they have a discussion and he's on about been a spunk and sperm man, the guy looking back had personality issues, he left a trail ending up housed as a neighbour

I have to say my present ex girlfriend is hurting and lashing out at those around her and all the mental health lot do is come round and stick a needle in her, she's on a community treatment order, i feel angry about that but what can i do?



Well, in the case of any deliberately errant and yet recidivistic duly certified psychiatric professionals who are fully licensed and yet who simply wilfully refuse to take and bear whatever obligations and responsibilities at all for the health cares of the ones they treat and attend to, and yet could still always take the law into their own hands and then always can just simply get away totally scot-free from such malpractices, oh, well, objectively and reasonably surely anyone could never ever tolerate, acquiesce and condone at all such or the like-uncivilized scenario and phenomena, such as the ones which are nevertheless commonplace centuries ago, to happen , take place and recur in the modern-day 21st century of this highly-civilized world, communities and societies.


Next such “Professional practices” would just simply & inevitably cast smudge and smear onto the generally & supposedly highly regarded modern-day professional psychiatry profession of this 21st century by bringing nothing but merely more on more shames & humiliations to it from time to time.


However, oh well, about all these blatant and brazen abuses of these related fully certified & licensed medical professionals, and well, if these errant deeds and actions just simply can fully be tolerated, accepted, acquiesced and totally condoned by, and simply mean nothing at all, to the related professional medical bodies & associations which duly and fully certify and license these medical professionals in the first place, then in such a scenario, there would hardly be anything that anyone can do.


Whilst the key issue here is that, well, about all these blatant and brazen abuses of these related fully certified & licensed medical professionals, well are these deeds and actions really can be deemed and defined in the eyes & thoughts of anyone as really & fully medically ethical & professional in line with the officially & ubiquitously proclaimed & codified professionalism and medically ethical rules & regulations of the modern-day psychiatric profession such as the ones laid down by the related professional medical bodies & associations in the first place?


Whilst the key point to ponder over here is such that, well, about all the basic principles & sanctity of humanities and humanitarianisms which inseparably and indispensably involve health cares of the people, well, do they actually and really mean anything or totally nothing at all in reality to these professional medical bodies & associations?


Lastly, it is simply the very much undisputed fact that the health cares issues of every single individual are unquestionably a totally inseparable and indispensable part of humanity and humanitarianism afterall.




Edited by ntuc (Yesterday at 05:30 AM)

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